Message from @Troye

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2019-12-19 07:36:58 UTC  

Are they tho?

2019-12-19 07:37:11 UTC  

oh don't fucking start, this is confusing enough already

2019-12-19 07:37:13 UTC  

and we didnt kill them off or genocide them, it was a battle. 30% of settlers died and 50% of the natives died

2019-12-19 07:37:13 UTC  

Look I'm not a fan of crying over what happened in the past and I completely realize this has little bearing on current policy. I simply believe its worth realizing that we're all human and all basically the same people. At birth at least

2019-12-19 07:37:17 UTC  

it was a big conflict

2019-12-19 07:37:39 UTC  

thats fine troye

2019-12-19 07:37:50 UTC  

but you will have to make the decision on whether you like america the way it is

2019-12-19 07:38:01 UTC  

or if you're fine with it changing due to mass immigration

2019-12-19 07:38:30 UTC  

that's a shitty false dichotomy

2019-12-19 07:38:36 UTC  

its really not

2019-12-19 07:38:52 UTC  

I'm pissed off enough with the change we're getting just from Cali transplants, let alone immigration

2019-12-19 07:39:02 UTC  

these people vote overwhelmingly in favor of hate speech laws, and gun control and etc.

2019-12-19 07:39:05 UTC  

the people who are coming in

2019-12-19 07:39:17 UTC  

so its either you stop them coming in or you are fine with those changes. among other things that will change

2019-12-19 07:39:23 UTC  

yes, it really is, America's not really great how it is, I'd just like to see it change by pulling our mismanaged foreign policy back and focusing on domestic matters

2019-12-19 07:39:54 UTC  

Was mostly just enjoying an argument of philosophy. I support immigration reform and oppose illegal immigration. And I'm in favor of encouraging immigrants to assimilate. I just also am in favor of human rights in general for all people

2019-12-19 07:39:57 UTC  

domestic matters can include securing the border

2019-12-19 07:40:31 UTC  

and wow, look at all this revenue and resources we have available for the border, now that we're not burning it overseas

2019-12-19 07:40:37 UTC  

then ultimately we agree, but troye see i go a bit further. im against illegal immigration obviously. duh. but im also against legal immigration unless its under very strict circumstances

2019-12-19 07:41:10 UTC  

we should move to a net 0 immigration policy. since 200,000 people leave the us every year we can accept around 200,000 in

2019-12-19 07:41:13 UTC  

@Jokerfaic Also, yes we definitely need foreign policy reform and to fix the holes forming in our own country

2019-12-19 07:41:43 UTC  

since 1965 we have had over 60 million people immigrate here

2019-12-19 07:42:30 UTC  

imagine what this does to the way our politics work alright. they are purposefully importing a voter based that they know reliably votes democrat. and they work for cheaper wages. allowing corporations to cut costs.

2019-12-19 07:42:35 UTC  

theres a lot behind why this is happening

2019-12-19 07:43:20 UTC  

@UnScottable If we enforce assimilation, I don't think the cap would be necessary. Problem that would never be enforced. So having that cap is probably a good idea.

2019-12-19 07:43:37 UTC  

the main thing to focus on is the right side of the data here

2019-12-19 07:43:58 UTC  

its broken down by race and sex. in 3 columns and 6 rows alright

2019-12-19 07:44:14 UTC  

look at the map if only hispanics were allowed to vote and just look at it

2019-12-19 07:44:38 UTC  

a sea of blue. and this is not by accident, they incentivize this with promising them citizenship and welfare

2019-12-19 07:45:18 UTC  

So anyway, when are you replacing Trump with Pence so he can electrocute the entirety of California?

2019-12-19 07:45:22 UTC  

Are you sure that graph is accurate

2019-12-19 07:45:38 UTC  

yes you can search up how demographics voted in 2016 for yourself if youd like

2019-12-19 07:45:41 UTC  

this is how it broke down

2019-12-19 07:46:20 UTC  

notice the country is totally red if only white males were allowed to vote lol... this is all by design is the sad part. the other side literally wants to reshape america and move away from our roots

2019-12-19 07:46:45 UTC  

and there are elements on the republican side that are aiding in this as well. controlled opposition

2019-12-19 07:47:32 UTC  

What's the point of fantasizing about an electorate make-up that cannot and will not exist?

2019-12-19 07:47:35 UTC  

Well, that's definitely not good if it is. What it says to me is that we need to focus on educating blacks and hispanics on what's actually happening and why it matters. If we don't its only going to keep getting worse

2019-12-19 07:48:02 UTC  

so people can yk... be all humane and what not... caring and etc. but what is happening is a purposeful effort to shift america away from its heritage. its past. and our values

2019-12-19 07:48:13 UTC  

our values on free speech and gun rights namely.

2019-12-19 07:48:17 UTC  

to start with