Message from @Troye

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2019-12-31 08:04:01 UTC  

No, it's harder. But not by a whole lot

2019-12-31 08:04:11 UTC  

People don't hear knife stabs.

2019-12-31 08:04:17 UTC  

True

2019-12-31 08:04:17 UTC  

People don't fear knives like they do guns.

2019-12-31 08:04:40 UTC  

You see a gun pointed in your direction and most freeze and think.

2019-12-31 08:05:01 UTC  

Dumb ones just get shot dead.

2019-12-31 08:05:30 UTC  

Its true that guns are more obvious as threats, so people are more likely to react in a way to protect themselves

2019-12-31 08:06:12 UTC  

Guns don't kill people. People kill people.

2019-12-31 08:06:21 UTC  

However, you can stand in a crowded room and kill 20-30 people in 20 seconds if you're a good shot

2019-12-31 08:06:38 UTC  

You can't kill people as quickly or easily with a knife

2019-12-31 08:06:46 UTC  

You have to be closer to them

2019-12-31 08:06:49 UTC  

A rabid knifeman can end up killing that many too before they know it.

2019-12-31 08:07:05 UTC  

but that's not really the point

2019-12-31 08:07:16 UTC  

because if they are rabid, the only way to stop it is by putting them down

2019-12-31 08:07:21 UTC  

If you're a good shot you can do the same thing from hundreds of feet away with a gun

2019-12-31 08:07:28 UTC  

*and you do that by arming people*

2019-12-31 08:07:57 UTC  

I'm not saying that the answer is creating gun free zones. Its not and they have the opposite effect

2019-12-31 08:08:02 UTC  

hundreds of feet? 30-90 meters?

2019-12-31 08:08:08 UTC  

that takes skill

2019-12-31 08:08:08 UTC  

I'm just saying they're more dangerous

2019-12-31 08:08:21 UTC  

I said if someone's skilled

2019-12-31 08:08:32 UTC  

the kind of people that are capable usually don't have reasons to do it

2019-12-31 08:08:54 UTC  

For the most part, yes

2019-12-31 08:08:57 UTC  

you might get the occasional PTSD dude with no support and a failing network

2019-12-31 08:09:27 UTC  

but every single fucking suicidal shooter is someone who isn't capable, who's a fuckup and who has been left by the wayside to become bitter

2019-12-31 08:09:36 UTC  

99+% of people who train like that aren't interested in killing people randomly

2019-12-31 08:09:52 UTC  

In developed countries anyway

2019-12-31 08:10:20 UTC  

decent people in decent countries with decent cultures being trained decently act decent, whoda thunk it?

2019-12-31 08:10:43 UTC  

the gun problems in the US are not really gun problems

2019-12-31 08:10:48 UTC  

they are social problems

2019-12-31 08:10:51 UTC  

cultural problems

2019-12-31 08:10:57 UTC  

Its mostly mental health issues

2019-12-31 08:11:06 UTC  

and yeah, psychological problems

2019-12-31 08:11:37 UTC  

And yeah cultural

2019-12-31 08:11:50 UTC  

In places like Chicago, Detroit, etc

2019-12-31 08:12:31 UTC  

Being raised in a violent shit hole makes people more violent

2019-12-31 08:13:12 UTC  

Chiraq and Detrostan?

2019-12-31 08:13:16 UTC  

yea

2019-12-31 08:13:48 UTC  

That's more of a cultural problem and a crime problem in one.

2019-12-31 08:14:02 UTC  

13% of the pop in a certain group doing 50% of violent crime

2019-12-31 08:14:17 UTC  

Really just cultural and socio-economic