Message from @fr0shT

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2019-12-03 14:36:39 UTC  

by the Shahanshah can we restore the Sassanid Empire

2019-12-03 14:37:27 UTC  

I don't think most Iranians give a shit about that.

2019-12-03 14:37:39 UTC  

They're all pretty westernized.

2019-12-03 14:37:54 UTC  

All we need is Trump to welcome Iran with open arms.

2019-12-03 14:37:56 UTC  

I mean I have an Iranian in my family and he's very western

2019-12-03 14:38:16 UTC  

he fled Iran because he almsot got executed for drinking alcohol and listening to rock

2019-12-03 14:38:38 UTC  

Yea, I know some Iranians that left for similar reasons. lol

2019-12-03 14:38:40 UTC  

but I dont think welcoming Iran with open arms will help

2019-12-03 14:38:45 UTC  

all it will do is embolden them

2019-12-03 14:38:57 UTC  

not to mention that by doing that you piss off the saudis

2019-12-03 14:39:10 UTC  

Fuck the Saudis

2019-12-03 14:39:20 UTC  

Like I said, Iran would be a better ally.

2019-12-03 14:39:34 UTC  

no, you can't de-radicalize Iran

2019-12-03 14:39:43 UTC  

both are a dictatorship/theocracy

2019-12-03 14:39:44 UTC  

unless extreme force is used

2019-12-03 14:39:56 UTC  

The US chose the wrong Islamic sect as friends.

2019-12-03 14:40:02 UTC  

imo just supporting neither is the best

2019-12-03 14:40:12 UTC  

opening a country and expecting the western influence to modernize them, has been proven not to work

2019-12-03 14:40:15 UTC  

or just wait until saudi arabia ruins the oil market and they descent into poverty

2019-12-03 14:40:24 UTC  

Yea, i agree with that. If supporting neither was the choice, that would be best.

2019-12-03 14:40:29 UTC  

You can "reeducate" islamists

2019-12-03 14:40:30 UTC  

youve got north korea, Russia, China, Emirates, etc examples of it not working

2019-12-03 14:41:10 UTC  

None of those countries leadership really allows it though.

2019-12-03 14:41:12 UTC  

you can reeducate a single muslim, you can't make a regime to change its autoritarian ways, without use of extreme force

2019-12-03 14:41:27 UTC  

Irans leader ship wouldnt either

2019-12-03 14:41:29 UTC  

they hate the west

2019-12-03 14:41:37 UTC  

so do msot iranians

2019-12-03 14:41:54 UTC  

they few who dont either left or pretend they hate the wets to not get executed

2019-12-03 14:42:11 UTC  

If you think about it

2019-12-03 14:42:31 UTC  

the only time, a country was completely changed

2019-12-03 14:42:41 UTC  

was Japan after the 2 A bombs

2019-12-03 14:42:48 UTC  

Westernization and Freemarkets are hard to avoid, but obviously without the leadership stepping down, you won't get 100% of the benefits. You'll have situations like China that benefits from free market as long as everyone pretends that China isn't what China is. We're getting there, though.

2019-12-03 14:42:53 UTC  

hehe

2019-12-03 14:42:59 UTC  

Freedom bombs.

2019-12-03 14:43:00 UTC  

the Trauma completely redefined its identity

2019-12-03 14:43:17 UTC  

That or maybe the US rebuilding japan.

2019-12-03 14:43:45 UTC  

@Ryoma Nagare and after they were ruled by an american

2019-12-03 14:43:46 UTC  

and having a permanent base.

2019-12-03 14:43:49 UTC  

i mean surely after something like that rebuilding is to be exected

2019-12-03 14:44:21 UTC  

You think Germany or the Soviets would have rebuilt what they nuked?

2019-12-03 14:45:06 UTC  

I just say that an A bomb in Iran, wouldn't be the worst thing, if you could live with the cost of human life.