you're under the assumption that I'm considering either

@UnScottable That is making me sad

they arent

yes, they are

you say they are irrelevent because your argument hinges on it

collect your tears in a jar for me so i can drink them

your argument is that the future doesnt matter because it isnt NOW

@Boop / 브파 / C'thUwU My argument hinges on the present worth of people

and then you say that the future and past aren relevent?

and then laugh maniacally

I'm not talking about the PAST worth

if 'now' is relevent, then the future and past are VERY much relevent becasuse w'ere talking time

I've stated as much already

like twice

dont be a gimp

Stop being disingenous, Boop

Oh I see, religious debates got everyone acting riled up

im not

your argument is trash

get over it

I've already stated I'm only considering the present

you're ignoring that

@SPOOKY Phil, Ruler of Heck If that's how you choose to see, it, ok, cool, w/e.
I'd rather stop the genocide of countless innocents. If we can do that through winning hearts & minds, that's *preferable,* but I know that won't work on everyone. Those willing to die to defend a whore being able to murder an unborn child... should have the opportunity to prove their conviction. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Well thunder came out with shitheel anti-BDS propaganda and I had nothing better to do

@Thundermark do you just have a macro for that emoji?

in the present, a politician has more worth than a homeless dude

in the context of their lives, that might be different

https://youtu.be/HdO-tcFHCqY

but in this society, those roles have different worths

@Jokerfaic imagine having no argument against your opponent, so you just use a cringy cliche like "shitheel" 🤦

@Kinky Kitsune (Coomer) cringe

Why does this exist

This meme channel right now

if you want to argue that the past has no bearing on the present, youre a retard. conversely, you want to argue the future/potential has no bearing on the present, which is also retarded because what if i sacrifice something NOW for future potential? time isnt what you think it is

I'm NOT arguing that

says the guy who started this unironically playing the nazi card

I'm arguing that in the present, a politician is worth more than a homeless dude