The most competent Chinese generals always seemed to live during a time when China was not a unified state.

Then it unifies and everyone's shit at fighting again.

That one is easy to explain at least.

Good time, bad nibbas.

You'd have to be stupid to deny that there were quite a few Chinese commanders who deserve a spot in history as some of the best ever.

But, just never when China as a united state could've actually needed some.

Laughs in HMS *Nemesis*

It'd be really nice if the fucking Chinese could stop being serfs.

I'm not very well versed in Chinese history and I won't pretend to me, but names that stick out include Cao Cao and An Lushan.

Think they're from near enough the same period though.

When China wasn't warring with itself, internal politics generally ensured that only those with the most prodigious love of bootlicking managed to get anywhere. Which made the Emperors feel great up until they needed their generals to do some gangster shit for them.

chinese were shit at fighting even at their civil war periods

mass infantry formations

poorly armoured troops

shit cavalry

You guys remember that Chinese man who thought he was the brother of Jesus?

Started a civil war that killed 20-30 million people?

and they could only operate because of the sheer grain output of rice farms

theyd be useless anywhere outside of china

Still, China's sheer size was a defense in and of itself.

but every war in china leaves tens of millions dead

And the general rarity of times when it was actually conquered allowed it to innovate and develop technologically and culturally.

they also breed like rabbits, so what's those millions dead???
Just fertiliser ofc!

shit wrong chat

>when you're chilling on your medieval warboat when some tea-drinkers come along with a ship spewing smoke, then shoot a firework into your largest boat and blow it to smithereens

kek

I mean heck, the crossbow was invented in China in 700 BC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Suiyang

Early forms did emerge in Europe but they weren't ubiquitous until way into the Medieval period.

its funny

Aha Suiyang!

because the region had had primitive ironclads for centuries

before then

and they sent fucking wooden ships vs steam ships

I love war.

>decisive tang victory

I thought you might appreciate that one, lads.

>TFW you realise you enjoy the architecture of ancient European, Asian, North African and South American dynasties, and firmly understand that you hate modern architecture.

>Red Indians and Sub-Saharan Africans don't have architecture.

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Modern architecture is shit.