When you have a commie American able to quote stats about the UK at you and you cant say shit.... <:PepeL:625351341656506378>

He's incorrectly mentally orientated for this kind of thing

He'd do great response videos

@Storin @JackH670 he couldnt debate him when vaush wouldnt let a straight answer even apear

Thing is though its like the Spencer debate

ask him if hes read locke

that wins debates tbh

Nah the fault was sargons from the start tbh, literally getting caught up in definition bullshit on a subject that was vastly irrelevant

Sargon might have lost the argument

Vaush wasn't even debating, he'd circle it around to ironically take Sargon's position so often.

But he won the debate just because of his opponent defeating themselves

And then sargon came off as a hypocrite tbh

Everyone came out of that thinking Vaush is an obnoxious cunt

never stop your opponent from making a mistake

Same with the nobs debate with Stich

Sitting there arguing about Muslim rape gangs and couldn't even name major cities, incidents, why the police were not recording it

I'm not even sure Sargon was a part of half of the debate, Vaush was so lost in his imaginary opponent.

If your opponent doesn't let you get a word in

Force it

Whatever point you are going to make you need to make it and be concise

I think the mods of the debate were weak both were interrupting the other like crazy

Adam is a weak mod in general as much as I like him

yeah ^

Debate is all about being brash tbh- and the mods were weak, however they both asked the mods to take a step back at the very start

the mods messed up, yes, and Sargon should have had the debate at a better time of day. That's the other issue.

And they both prefaced it by saying "we can defend ourselves, were brash enough"

He should have raped Vaushs ass everytime he adhomd because that isn't a fucking argument and this isn't a insulting match

It was but it shouldn't have been

i swear, sargon seemed to tune out and be disinterested

He did

What else can you do to a rambling zealot

while vaush was sitting there intently attacking his image of sargon XD

He seemed alienated

a zealot who also defeats their own argument

There were some things sargon could of mentioned though that he didn't, like the worker communes, how are they going to allocate businesses? What happens to the individual who took out the loans to start up that business? Is it now shared between all the employees, etc.

Like if he had anything beyond surface knowledge he could of gone to task on that alone

And he tokenly mentioned the fact that 89% of American business are less than 20 workers

That is a key point

There are a plethora of ways to attack communism

i dont think sargon brought any of that up because he just didnt give a shit about the debate after less than half an hour of having to listen to vaush talk over him constantly

This was literally the debate