Message from @Samaritan™
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Like he needs to study these things beyond the surface so that he can adequately defend his positions, because he did come off as a petulant child in comparison to vaush tbh who knew his shit- right or wrong he won that debate <:shrug:349342983763656705>
He understand the politics part he doesn't get the social dynamics walk all over your opponent or be walked on part
When you have a commie American able to quote stats about the UK at you and you cant say shit.... <:PepeL:625351341656506378>
He's incorrectly mentally orientated for this kind of thing
He'd do great response videos
Thing is though its like the Spencer debate
ask him if hes read locke
that wins debates tbh
Nah the fault was sargons from the start tbh, literally getting caught up in definition bullshit on a subject that was vastly irrelevant
Sargon might have lost the argument
Vaush wasn't even debating, he'd circle it around to ironically take Sargon's position so often.
But he won the debate just because of his opponent defeating themselves
And then sargon came off as a hypocrite tbh
Everyone came out of that thinking Vaush is an obnoxious cunt
never stop your opponent from making a mistake
Same with the nobs debate with Stich
Sitting there arguing about Muslim rape gangs and couldn't even name major cities, incidents, why the police were not recording it
I'm not even sure Sargon was a part of half of the debate, Vaush was so lost in his imaginary opponent.
If your opponent doesn't let you get a word in
Whatever point you are going to make you need to make it and be concise
I think the mods of the debate were weak both were interrupting the other like crazy
Adam is a weak mod in general as much as I like him
yeah ^
Debate is all about being brash tbh- and the mods were weak, however they both asked the mods to take a step back at the very start
the mods messed up, yes, and Sargon should have had the debate at a better time of day. That's the other issue.
And they both prefaced it by saying "we can defend ourselves, were brash enough"
He should have raped Vaushs ass everytime he adhomd because that isn't a fucking argument and this isn't a insulting match
It was but it shouldn't have been
i swear, sargon seemed to tune out and be disinterested
He did
What else can you do to a rambling zealot
while vaush was sitting there intently attacking his image of sargon XD
He seemed alienated
a zealot who also defeats their own argument
There were some things sargon could of mentioned though that he didn't, like the worker communes, how are they going to allocate businesses? What happens to the individual who took out the loans to start up that business? Is it now shared between all the employees, etc.
Like if he had anything beyond surface knowledge he could of gone to task on that alone
And he tokenly mentioned the fact that 89% of American business are less than 20 workers
That is a key point
There are a plethora of ways to attack communism