Message from @Thomas Ryan
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hopefully summer time we can get more rallies in better chosen states
Big, pre-announced rallies are tricky. Unless you have a lot of factors such as overwhelming numbers, group cohesion, and a friendly police force or local govt, it's going to be a Cville. Cville, quite literally, was the end of the movement that went into it, and another one emerged on the other side.
What changed? Loaded question
well I mean we are seen as a real physical threat now for one
I can name some things I’ve noticed, but @Thomas Ryan would be the guy to ask
i think it also made both sides more fanatical and dedicated also
personally i think it made me realize what was under attack even more so and how real this threat is
The fact that someone died definitely brought it another level for sure.
Identity Evropa leadership changed, now it's changed again because of the same reasons that can be traced back to Cville, Vanguard America, for all intents and purposes, ceased to exist. The Nationalist Front (Tradworker Party, NSM, League of the South) distanced themselves from the rest of the "Alt Right", which primarly became a term only used by IE and Richard Spencer, who both now seem to be branching towards "Identitarian" as a label more.
Beyond that, there was the huge crackdown online, websites getting taken down left and right, as well as social media accounts. The Daily Stormer has gotten taken down so many times it's down to a fraction of it's previous viewership.
Also, there's been a whole push towards new tactics. Namely quick flashmobs have been advocated for a lot more, with us being the main people who are bringing them to the forefront. And it started the first "optics debate" about pro-America symbolism, or entirely independant symbolism. Cantwell, who was a big figure, is also still in jail.
i think the flash mobs are the right way forward
we can do more of them quicker and less risk for arrest
we can kinda control the narrative with flash mobs
We absolutely can. There aren't any on-the-ground reporters, so they have to use only what we let out, the police can't put barricades around the entire town, and on every street, to turn the event into a herding game of cattle, and Leftists can't bus in anyone they can to serve as a big meaty roadblock.
its a deff win win situation
i think the flash mobs have been a big part of the idenitarian success of groups overseas
success of idenitrain
Wait, if Vanguard America ceases to exist would it be beneficial to absorb the former chapters into PF? I'm pretty sure they have a chapter here in Okla.
They're still around, they just don't do anything.
And I don't think of other groups in that capacity. If people come over, they do, if they don't, they don't.
Could I reach out to MA Vanguard and see if I can bring some guys over? Their MA Vanguard Account has 700 followers
Nope, you may not.
That account could be run by a single guy, and if there's no IRL activism, there's no assurance that there's manpower. Plus, leeching members off other groups is a no-go.
Fair enough
Plus, if those people we're bringing over don't do anything now, we may have reason to question their productivity if they were brought over.
Is there bad blood between Vanguard and PF? & Good point. I definitely see the value in bringing up our own guys.
Yep, and we'll be able to bring in our own guys, just need a steady stream of activism from all our members.
One guy, with one hour, and ten dollars can cause an uproar, and give us thousands of eyes on our stuff, and thousands of dollars worth of advertising. That's the goal for isolated folks.
I’m going to put some flyers up on some heavy foot traffic areas locally and I’m gonna do one of the big campuses this weekend. I don’t drive yet so making it out to the college campuses sometimes is a challenge, especially when planning entrance/exit.
Sounds like a plan. Let us know if you need any tips.
@RomaOK Those pics you got last time were a bit unsable, and the posters themselves were a tad rough on the eyes as far as printing goes. What plans do you have to fix things up so we can advertise OK activism?
Today stirring up trouble at the Hillary book signing
@Thomas Ryan might be making it out to TX in March. Buddy of mine is going to a Trump March I think in Austin so I’ll head down with him and gonna stay for like 2 days hope to get to meet some of the TX guys if they’re around
@Thomas Ryan I'll use my company printer next time and save up for a better phone for better picture quality. I'm about to go out and put up another couple of flyers in a few hours, when traffic slows down.
The picture resolution is fine, it's the framing.
And just go to a print shop like the ones that FedEx has for good quality prints.
Don't lose your job over it.
@RomaOK That make sense? Color copies are only around 20 cents at a print shop, and you won't run the printers out of ink like one at work or home.
If you get the files on a flash drive, and have a credit or debit card, you can use self service and bypass the awkward conversation with the folks behind the counter.
@Thomas Ryan Will do.
Also, @Chris MA That guy with his arms outstretched seems a bit... out of it.
You're willing to go clear accross the country for a Trump march? Well, it's an excuse to go and meet more of our guys so it's all good. I was at a March 4 Trump last year, that's where I first met most of the Austin dudes. It's where the TX party really got going. Antifa confrontation and everything.
Also, we showcase tons of poster pics on our social media, take a look there if you want to see what makes the cut.