Message from @Oboe

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2019-06-20 17:17:27 UTC  

Using the words gnaw and chew the other times

2019-06-20 17:17:55 UTC  

When someone eats the bread at church, it is physically bread

2019-06-20 17:18:08 UTC  

It dosent turn into flesh when u bite into it does it

2019-06-20 17:18:30 UTC  

It’s *substance* is that of Christ. Its appearance is that of bread

2019-06-20 17:18:33 UTC  

Why does he say " whoever eats this bread will live forever"

2019-06-20 17:18:38 UTC  

And not flesh

2019-06-20 17:18:43 UTC  

Since it is literally flesh

2019-06-20 17:18:52 UTC  

Why adress it as bread

2019-06-20 17:19:22 UTC  

So people will understand it the way they understand Passover.

2019-06-20 17:20:06 UTC  

It never mentions it is literally his flesh, it can be interpretted as either literal or symbolic

2019-06-20 17:20:19 UTC  

And i dont trust anything the catholic church spews from its whoring mouth

2019-06-20 17:20:36 UTC  

Well then there’s nothing I can do for you

2019-06-20 17:20:42 UTC  

Sola Scriptura

2019-06-20 17:22:02 UTC  

Let’s ignore that the Bible was compiled by the church

2019-06-20 17:24:04 UTC  

So, where in the Bible does it say that the Bible is authoritative to Christians?

2019-06-20 17:24:24 UTC  

It was compiled by God indirectly

2019-06-20 17:24:37 UTC  

Using men

2019-06-20 17:25:17 UTC  

Men who were part of the Catholic Church. Specifically during the council of Trent if memory serves

2019-06-20 17:25:32 UTC  

@GHOST @Oboe feel free to ask questions if you have them

2019-06-20 17:26:00 UTC  

@Phil With Frankincense The Early Church, not the catholic church

2019-06-20 17:26:03 UTC  

2 Timothy 3:16

2019-06-20 17:26:04 UTC  

**2 Timothy 3:16 - King James Version (KJV)**

```Dust


<16> All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: ```

2019-06-20 17:26:19 UTC  

Scripture is authoritative

2019-06-20 17:26:53 UTC  

K

2019-06-20 17:26:59 UTC  

2 Timothy 3:14-18

2019-06-20 17:26:59 UTC  

**2 Timothy 3:14-17 - New American Bible (Revised Edition) (NABRE)**

```Dust


<14> But you, remain faithful to what you have learned and believed, because you know from whom you learned it, <15> and that from infancy you have known <the> sacred scriptures, which are capable of giving you wisdom for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. <16> All scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for refutation, for correction, and for training in righteousness, <17> so that one who belongs to God may be competent, equipped for every good work. ```

2019-06-20 17:27:23 UTC  

But I have a second question for you with that

2019-06-20 17:27:50 UTC  

Where does it say that *only* scripture is authoritative

2019-06-20 17:27:57 UTC  

It doesn't

2019-06-20 17:28:11 UTC  

The early church was the Catholic Church @Deleted User

2019-06-20 17:28:15 UTC  
2019-06-20 17:28:22 UTC  

But if at any point the traditions of men contradict the word of God we must take the words of God above the vain traditions of men

2019-06-20 17:28:27 UTC  

It was a mix of the Orthodox and the Catholics

2019-06-20 17:28:38 UTC  

Then it had a schism

2019-06-20 17:28:41 UTC  

Got any sources? 🤔

2019-06-20 17:28:49 UTC  

@oboe i agree

2019-06-20 17:28:53 UTC  

Because it is shown that the early Church thought the Bishop of Rome was supreme.

2019-06-20 17:29:06 UTC  

And both believed in the true presence of Christ in the Eucharist

2019-06-20 17:29:11 UTC  

@Phil With Frankincense Do you believe that the successors of the apostles inherit the same exact power and authority that their predecessors had?

2019-06-20 17:29:11 UTC  

But I digress

2019-06-20 17:29:30 UTC  

Is that not what apostolic succession is?