Message from @Oboe
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He dosent give passage to non believers
I don’t know who you are to say what God doesn’t do
It's literally in the Bible
The Bible is God's word
And who are you to say what he *does* do?
I said He May
All scripture says otherwise
(X) doubt
Show me one instance where it says there is even a chance he will give everyone entrance
I never said that He will give everyone entrance
What's your stance then
The invincibly ignorant who lead their lives as God calls them to do. May enter heaven or limbo and be spared damnation
Those people being those who have no knowledge of Christ or similar
If someone has never heard of Christ they go to hell
Because everyone has
It’s similar to the idea of baptism of desire/ baptism of blood
The star when Jesus was born was seen throughout the world
It was up to man to respond to it
Those that didn't ignored it, and their predecessors ignored it
They are guilty
it implies that damnation is unjust or that God has an obligation to save people
Anyone who does not believe in Christ cannot enter the kingdom of God, it's as simple as that @Phil With Frankincense
SIMPLE AS
No matter what
You may call it unfair, you may say "a loving God wouldn't do that"
God is rarely portrayed as loving
That's Jesus's role
God is just
God as in the father
Jesus is God too. You run the risk of falling into Arianism talking like that
Well, the fact that God the Father provided Jesus as a sacrifice is indeed loving, so it's actually a matter of both.
@Phil With Frankincense That's why I just said God as in the father
To clarify
Jesus is *equal* to the father
And Jesus is less powerful than the Father
False
Heresy
Jesus says himself he is under the Father
Jesus is loyal to the father
As He is His father