Message from @primarina

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2019-10-15 19:03:18 UTC  

I'm taking the meaning of the two words, to make a more literal version of the phrase

2019-10-15 19:03:42 UTC  

That's simply not what is done in philosophy, you take the meaning of it and then address that

2019-10-15 19:04:16 UTC  

You were trying to understand what I was saying and you change it to mean something else

2019-10-15 19:04:46 UTC  

U lads wanna continue arguing or can I post a religion qotd

2019-10-15 19:04:48 UTC  

Well, I'm taking the meaning of the words and addressing them, rather than just the meaning of the phrase

2019-10-15 19:05:12 UTC  

Telling me I can't use intrinsic literally, is kinda weird

2019-10-15 19:05:13 UTC  

That's just bad motives then

2019-10-15 19:05:34 UTC  

You address the meaning of the words rather than a literal denotation of it

2019-10-15 19:06:09 UTC  

I'm not arguing with your usage, I'm defending my usage of the component words to form a similiar phrase of distinct meaning.

2019-10-15 19:06:49 UTC  

You were arguing my usage actually

2019-10-15 19:06:53 UTC  

And pointing out how the phrase as you used it might mislead some people, and be ambiguous to others, the philosophic common term or not

2019-10-15 19:06:57 UTC  

<@&588707615643795456> Daily Question ✝

- Should the state actively support a religion? Should States have the right to engage in missionary work?

2019-10-15 19:07:08 UTC  

Yes

2019-10-15 19:07:16 UTC  

Its actually more ambiguous to use it your way primarina

2019-10-15 19:07:17 UTC  

The state should guarantee freedom of religion

2019-10-15 19:07:42 UTC  

Etymology also includes the usage of it historically, and that simply isn't it

2019-10-15 19:08:03 UTC  

Eoppa, non literal readings are inherently ambiguous as words / phrases have literal meanings

2019-10-15 19:08:05 UTC  
2019-10-15 19:08:15 UTC  

No

2019-10-15 19:08:21 UTC  

Primarina, read a book on linguistics

2019-10-15 19:08:31 UTC  

I accept your usage as a figure of speach

2019-10-15 19:08:33 UTC  

The state has no right to enforce a certain ideology or religion upon their citizens

2019-10-15 19:08:40 UTC  

cringe

2019-10-15 19:08:42 UTC  

The "literal" definition is based on it's common usage

2019-10-15 19:09:02 UTC  

But the common usage of the phrase is distinct from the common usage of the words

2019-10-15 19:09:10 UTC  

and the common process for combining words

2019-10-15 19:09:32 UTC  

I think there is serious hazard to rejecting that altertate literal interpretation / usage of the words

2019-10-15 19:09:42 UTC  

Intrinsic means in and of itself, aka objective, I don't see your problem here

2019-10-15 19:09:54 UTC  

There are multiple definitions of words you know?

2019-10-15 19:10:01 UTC  

But something can be intrinsic to the self

2019-10-15 19:10:23 UTC  

objective is no longer used as a synonym to intrinsic afaik

2019-10-15 19:10:23 UTC  

It *can* but that is a different definition hardly used ever if at all

2019-10-15 19:10:30 UTC  

So how is that less ambiguous

2019-10-15 19:10:49 UTC  

Um, the phrase is ambiguous

2019-10-15 19:10:56 UTC  

As to which interpretation to use

2019-10-15 19:11:03 UTC  

Literally I would be hard pressed to find that in any philosophical work or anything by laymen even

2019-10-15 19:11:08 UTC  

One may be more common, but it is also less accessible

2019-10-15 19:11:23 UTC  

Its actually more accessible

2019-10-15 19:11:39 UTC  

To philosophers who are used to using an abbreviation as a standin

2019-10-15 19:11:42 UTC  

Google "intrinsic morality"

2019-10-15 19:11:52 UTC  

google intrinsic then google morality