So even in that perspective you remain in the lake of fire permanently?

@Simp what?

The lake of fire is permanent

Now, the Bible mentions a second death, I do not know of the soul of the damned is literally annihilated and dosent exist or if it's in eternal fire

Or if youou even retain consicousness in the lake of fire

Oh I see

Thank you

I guess I was having a mini stroke there

The lake of fire doesn't destroy hell

I dont think he implied tha5

14 Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. 15 And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire. Rev 20:14-15

The second death and names not written in the book of life being thrown into the lale of fire is the important part to understanding it.

Vs 11-15 talk about the final judgement

What religions/denominations does everyone hold?

Apatheist gang @Shalopy

Catholic

Interesting

@Gromp How does that fit in with the rest of your worldview/views?

Baptist Gang

I hold to the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod

No religion in politics, everyone should be able to believe in whatever they want to (unless it’s some predatory cult shit like Scientology) as long as they keep it out of politics @Shalopy

That would just lead to forms of Christianity disguising themselves as secular to gain power, like we saw from progressivism

Hence the need for frequent purges of the government

Revelation 6:8

Purges wouldn't help, you just have no understanding of how ideology and politics work

Well if you say so bud.

Can elaborate more tho

What I said was pretty bare bones so can understand if there may be some confusion

@Maksim assuming the christian god exists, what about him existing means you have to obey/serve/worship him

@Gromp all belief, traditions, thought, etc relies on socially developed axioms. You don't exist in a philosophical or intellectual vacuum. Everything even down to language itself carries metaphysical baggage. What you are doing by denying X religion is propping up another tradition while assuming it's not a tradition.

I’m not denying any religion? I don’t have anything against Scientology’s beliefs (however batshit they may be) I have sth against their practice of inducting people into their weird ass cult and abuse them. Now of course all religions may have people doing that I just thought it was a good example @Eoppa

@Maksim u there bruh?

@Joywolf I'm in class.

@Gromp I'm talking about your prohibition on mixing religious beliefs and the state

<@&588707615643795456> Daily Question ✝️

- What is your view on predestination? Do we have free will to choose our path or our decisions predetermined since God knows everything?

Foreknowledge doesn't contradict free will is my interpretation

I believe Molinism is the name of that doctrine

The Norns spin the threads of fate at the foot of Yggdrasill, the tree of the world. Beneath them is the well Urðarbrunnr with the two swans that have engendered all the swans in the world.

not sure