Message from @Veraic
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Oml.
It's all g.
If not in the sense that humans have them
What is in common for human desires and supreme desires that leads you to calling both of them desires
in the sense that the Lord will descend down into earth every so often to mitigate the anxieties of the pure disciples, as well as to reestablish the principles of Religion.
the desire to keep the natural order, and faith going and growing
Yeah that doesn’t answer the question
I’ll post it again
What is in common for human desires and supreme desires that leads you to calling both of them desires
desire is a thing you want or crave, the only thing common about the 2 is that the Lord wishes for his disciples to keep the faith growing and continuing the worship of him, fi that were to stop then he sends himself down to personally correct it.
its not like he needs to sleep, eat or drink anything like that
unless hes in a human form
Ok so god does want things
its kinda hard to articulate
I don’t know why you’re complicating it
God either wants things or doesn’t want things
well i said that above
you just said god wants things, ie there are things that he could potentially be/not be in accord with.
You said god doesn’t have desires in the way humans do
But it sounds like god does have desires in the same sense that humans do
not bodily desires
is what i meant
god having desires at all means he is not perfect
I don’t see why what the desire is about is relevant to my objection
If you claim your god is perfect, and also has desires, your god is contradictory
how is that contradictory
What the fuck is this shitty conception of desire
that the Lord wants his followers to keep worshiping him
Ah, yes. I agree with your central point though I find your conclusion to be faulty. I would simply say that it is not God being unable to do something, but rather his allowing us to harbour free will. With regards to desire, God harbours desire such as desiring for us to follow his law. It is not that we nor God have the inability to do this, rather he suspends his interference to allow for us to choose. @Blueroad
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yes thats what i meant
Because to have desires entails that there’s potential to be out of accord with that desire(which god is)
To have potential or to be actually out of accord with desires means to be imperfect
The desire isn't regarding himself
We've been over this
No, God is not unable to achieve, he chooses not to allow himself to achieve to safeguard free-will.
its not about Lord himself
No.