Message from @Maksim

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2019-12-12 06:06:48 UTC  

@Veraic read the verses, please

2019-12-12 06:07:21 UTC  

@Enkrum prob a mix of Levantines and semite

2019-12-12 06:07:30 UTC  

I figure.

2019-12-12 06:08:31 UTC  

@Maksim never read the good news version before

2019-12-12 06:08:42 UTC  

Where did all the others who were making that terrible argument go?

2019-12-12 06:08:45 UTC  

Lol

2019-12-12 06:08:45 UTC  

only KJV and NVT

2019-12-12 06:08:57 UTC  

@Veraic Feel free to read the versus in KJV

2019-12-12 06:09:03 UTC  

itll carry the same meaning

2019-12-12 06:10:32 UTC  

no the translations not going to change much

2019-12-12 06:11:06 UTC  

i dont have my KJV bible with me rn anyway so im not going to look them up either too lazy

2019-12-12 06:11:29 UTC  

You can just type the verse in chat and write KJV at the end @Veraic

2019-12-12 06:11:47 UTC  

oh neat

2019-12-12 06:11:49 UTC  

Galatians 3:7 KJV

2019-12-12 06:11:49 UTC  

2019-12-12 06:11:59 UTC  

Titus 1:14 KJV

2019-12-12 06:12:01 UTC  

2019-12-12 06:12:03 UTC  

bruh

2019-12-12 06:12:06 UTC  

thats kinda cool

2019-12-12 06:12:49 UTC  

It is

2019-12-12 06:13:06 UTC  

Titus 1:10-11 KJV

2019-12-12 06:13:07 UTC  

2019-12-12 06:16:35 UTC  

Christianity's alright.

2019-12-12 06:16:52 UTC  

Certainly beneficial and good.

2019-12-12 12:33:26 UTC  

@Maksim so back to the problem of last night

2019-12-12 12:33:55 UTC  

All you said was p1 and p2 and that they don’t contradict

2019-12-12 12:34:12 UTC  

P1 and p2 contradicting wasn’t even in question

2019-12-12 12:36:49 UTC  

The problem is. I’m the Christian view it’s believed that god can not be incomplete, yet having desires defacto means you are incomplete, being complete would mean not having desires. Similarly having desires means you’re not pure actualization, Because desires are potential

2019-12-12 12:38:06 UTC  

That’s why your response was a dodge

2019-12-12 12:40:45 UTC  

Basically all of the responses boiled down to: god can’t be imperfect and yes god has will but it’s not will for himself, it’s will for us! Or god can’t be imperfect and god has will(which is just reiterating the logical problem at hand

2019-12-12 12:52:43 UTC  

@Veraic theres your explanation. next time youre having a serious conversation about suicide in the middle of any of our conversations, ill assume you cant explain. >.>

2019-12-12 15:57:11 UTC  

@Joywolf No. We already explained it thrice, but you fail to understand our concepts. God's desires are for us to make the right choice - i.e outside of his (voluntary) control. He has decided that we should have free will, and gave us the choice. He wants us to make the right choice, he is utterly complete, WE are not and he wants us to be

2019-12-12 15:57:23 UTC  

I don't understand why it's so hard for you to grasp this concept

2019-12-12 16:01:58 UTC  

its not outside of him. its *his* desire, how can it be his desire and outside of him. its not *my* desire that i should make the "right choice"

2019-12-12 16:02:21 UTC  

I don't understand why it's so hard for you to grasp this concept

2019-12-12 16:02:30 UTC  
2019-12-12 16:05:23 UTC  

@Joywolf It's his desire and it is outside of him

2019-12-12 16:05:29 UTC  

That is the nature of being omnipotent

2019-12-12 16:05:47 UTC  

lol its still his desire

2019-12-12 16:05:51 UTC  

you keep dodging

2019-12-12 16:06:11 UTC  

No, it's omnipotence