Message from @Spergerger
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desiring you to come to me of your own free will is not a desire?
it doesnt matter if youre in accord with them
ok youre fucking moving goalposts now
yes desiring someone to come to you freely is a desire
you literally are saying that it is a desire
than saying it isnt in the same sentence
yes
but you have yet to prove that desire implies potentiality in this context
i already have shown that
your example was nosensical
lemme restate
material jew
see if u can think of just one more
just one other example
needs a material god
p1: desire means that theres a state of affairs that someone can *potentially* be in or out of accord with
lmao
no
Ignore him and stick to the point with spergerger
otto just spergs on me about me being jewish, materialistic, and ignores any point thats made
or just doesnt grasp it
@Spergerger two things
1: youd have to make an argument for there being a difference between the two
2: then youd have to show what is the *same* about them that makes them both a desire
3: then youd have to show that the difference takes away concern of potentiality
3 things
so unless you can make this distinction, im inclined to think of them as the same for all intents and purposes
So you are more less concerned that God has behaviors with the materialistic world, effectively denying his divinity.
are you asking me whether gods nature and mans nature are different?, really?
@Spergerger read what i wrote
Clarify your argument, because I was not here for most of it.
obviously theyre different in a hypothetical sense @Spergerger
but
"but"
"hypothetical"
when we use words to describe god, you cant say it means something different for god without explaining what the difference is
and why you use the same word at all
which means they share something in common
So you’re making a case on the inexplicable nature of God?