Message from @Joywolf

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2019-12-12 16:25:13 UTC  

god is literally in accordance with his desires in the example you used

2019-12-12 16:25:25 UTC  

idk if youre trolling me

2019-12-12 16:25:25 UTC  

Your entire thesis is based on false assumptions

2019-12-12 16:25:38 UTC  

you just said "muh omnipotence fixes everything" when omnipotence is part of whats in question.

2019-12-12 16:26:04 UTC  

@Spergerger god having desires at all is the problem

2019-12-12 16:26:11 UTC  

no

2019-12-12 16:26:14 UTC  

yes

2019-12-12 16:26:19 UTC  

stay on track

2019-12-12 16:26:22 UTC  

god having potentiality would be the problem

2019-12-12 16:26:25 UTC  

yes

2019-12-12 16:26:32 UTC  

desire necessitates potentiality

2019-12-12 16:26:34 UTC  

lmao

2019-12-12 16:26:41 UTC  

but his desires have no potentiality because he is already in accordance with them

2019-12-12 16:27:06 UTC  

lmao then they wouldnt be desires

2019-12-12 16:27:09 UTC  

but they are

2019-12-12 16:27:26 UTC  

desiring you to come to me of your own free will is not a desire?

2019-12-12 16:27:26 UTC  

it doesnt matter if youre in accord with them

2019-12-12 16:27:39 UTC  

ok youre fucking moving goalposts now

2019-12-12 16:27:51 UTC  

yes desiring someone to come to you freely is a desire

2019-12-12 16:28:02 UTC  

you literally are saying that it is a desire

2019-12-12 16:28:11 UTC  

than saying it isnt in the same sentence

2019-12-12 16:28:27 UTC  

yes
but you have yet to prove that desire implies potentiality in this context

2019-12-12 16:28:34 UTC  

i already have shown that

2019-12-12 16:28:42 UTC  

your example was nosensical

2019-12-12 16:28:47 UTC  

lemme restate

2019-12-12 16:28:50 UTC  

material jew

2019-12-12 16:28:53 UTC  

see if u can think of just one more

2019-12-12 16:28:59 UTC  

just one other example

2019-12-12 16:29:01 UTC  

needs a material god

2019-12-12 16:29:20 UTC  

p1: desire means that theres a state of affairs that someone can *potentially* be in or out of accord with

2019-12-12 16:29:40 UTC  

@Otto ye come in here with irrelevant bs

2019-12-12 16:29:41 UTC  

lmao

2019-12-12 16:29:48 UTC  

no

2019-12-12 16:29:59 UTC  

Ignore him and stick to the point with spergerger

2019-12-12 16:30:29 UTC  

otto just spergs on me about me being jewish, materialistic, and ignores any point thats made

2019-12-12 16:30:34 UTC  

also
are u unironically conflating gods desires with the desires of man?

2019-12-12 16:30:34 UTC  

or just doesnt grasp it

2019-12-12 16:30:39 UTC  

@Joywolf Ignore him and stick to the point with spergerger

2019-12-12 16:31:03 UTC  

@Spergerger two things

2019-12-12 16:32:10 UTC  

1: youd have to make an argument for there being a difference between the two
2: then youd have to show what is the *same* about them that makes them both a desire
3: then youd have to show that the difference takes away concern of potentiality

2019-12-12 16:32:14 UTC  

3 things