Aligning morality with that of other religions while technically still being independent of that religion is fine
Without a concrete sense of morality we’ll end up jumping further and further down a worse and worse path

Moral relativism means death for humanity

Atheism is really a spectrum. There are those who dont believe in a god but believe in an uncaused cause, and there are those who just dont believe in natta.

I think either of which is fine and yes it could align with right-wing views but I personally believe it aligns more with better-wing views

multiple christian UTubers have made some solid cases that atheists cannot be moral unless they simply accept and function using the morality of well christians

as is generally the case, most even willa rgue moral relativism only then to run into absolutes such as 'slavery is wrong, and even if we return to it in the future we may return to somethign that is immoral"

arguing moral absolutes all of a sudden

morality, should we consider it objective, is a starting point and well in general an entire argument for gods existence. Objective morality is very much so in opposition to the atheist worldview.

Moral relativism is quite litrally a death for humanity as Konugh said. Its not even reverting back to darker times but rather establishign tha tmorality ultimately is just something that is a figment of our imagination and that ultimately changes on a whim.

There are however more reasonable and less reasonable atheists, most reasonable fall under the agnostic atheist tag since they often aknowledge and refuse to make their position one that is absolute aknowledging their philosophical shortcomings but choosing to trust it over other methods.

As far as right wing, I dont think so, the right wing is also a spiritual movement in a way, one that is aims for vitrue, morality, and holds these to be objective, it also holds things to be sacred. The right wing to some extent is fundumentally spiritual if not outright religious.

Morality can never be objective

even if the bible is right

morality should be based mainly upon hurt and suffering

thats what I think

and even tho its subjective if enough people agree on what I say then we can enforce it upon people

thats then absolute moral relativism, that means that if I and a bigger band of people come, and say "slavery is good" then it is literally good. the axiome of suffering simply means hedonism ie. I do what causes pleasure. And therefore it is good. The reason people agree on morality to any extent is becuse until not too long ago society believe in objective morality as fictated by god. Currently the left is makign pedophilia okay. Soon it might not be immoral at all, given enough people accept it as moral, to diddle little kids.

this then means that fundumentally the question is "does morality exist at all, or not at all?" -> If it exists it must be objective, if it doesnt it is simply a figment of our imagination.

(the axiome of suffering is extremely weak since it permits utterly immoral acts, generally its beyond inconsistent since suffering in and of itself is not a bad thing, or evil and can be a tool for good). But this s just devolving into adiscussion on morality its nature etc. Still fundumentally I do think the right is in essence to some degree spiritual

religious etc. and that this simply puts atheists often at odds with the right, and this in general plays out in trends. Atheists are trypically left leaning or left wing, with a fringe minority that is right wing and evne then they orbit the center never going too far into the right wing

Atheism and secularism is being pushed by the jews to destroy the modern world. I see know way you can be a nationalistic right winger and also be atheist.

lol

@Lars Killed Napster That in itself is retarded

You can be a nationalist and an atheist xD you dumb fuck

@Husky I see "know" way how you can be correct in that

checkmate gaytheist fags

xD

I became agnostic as I started college, had a brief fall-back on my semi-Christian upbringing, then eventually accepted that I was an atheist in about 2017. I don't feel negatively towards any people who do have faith and I understand faith as a necessary tool in societal cohesion but I don't see myself as ever being religious. I think it's the way my mind is made up and it's also my upbringing that made me the way I am.

It's hard for me to say what I "think" about atheism because it means different things to different people. I think a not-insignificant amount of atheists, especially the more militant types, are not actually atheists but instead highly discouraged and disaffected Christians who have come to hate humanity, the faith itself, its manifestations in various institutions or history itself and they're lashing out against those who they feel have abused a faith that they fundamentally believe in.

These proto-Christians aren't really atheists because I feel like fundamentally they act and feel in a way that presumes a higher objective morality and life after death, etc.

niggas be revolting against God and calling themselves right wing

>Nationalist

>Supporting Jewish anti nationalist ideology

Cringe and blue pilled

But then we get the pagan fags saying that Christianity is Jewish subversion, limiting ourselves by following a kike on a stick. Meanwhile they both 1. Disrespect their "ancestors" by not partaking in the proper form of pagan rituals following what (((Hollywood))) has told them what it means to be pagan, and 2. They falsely credit achievements of Christian Eurpoeans to that of pagans.

@Crazed Shotgun there was gay shit, polygamy, and even more assholery in paganism than Christianity.

Loki got fucked by a horse man

Big gay

Don't forget the Spartans who literally sodomized every 12 year old boy to "toughen him up." Granted the trauma made them not fear death but Strength through Degeneracy is not strength worth having.

I don't mean to cast too much shade and dislike toward the Spartans, the Idea of every man being trained in the millitary is appealing. Turn the modern young fatherless men into Hardened warriors ready to defend their country.

I dont want every young boy to be trained for the military as much as I just want more discipline and sense of order into school systems. There are a lot of military tactics that instill a sense of belonging and order into people that would do a lot of good to be implimented in schools.

@Crazed Shotgun I was under the impression “god is dead” was more of a reference in the case of Nietzsche to the result of the Era of Enlightenment, that being a relatively strong downturn in the ability of a belief in god to exist in the average person as much of the mysticism of religion waned with the advent of scientific theory and evidence based thinking in common thought.

And in reference to the poll, when it comes to the current society we live in, an atheistic life tends to be *better* suited to operating in the society. And before anyone gets their panties in a twist, I didn’t say anything about if society should be or is better as it is right now, I’m simply stating how it is at the moment, so don’t start making my statement into your own dragon to slay.