Message from @Trash

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2019-07-16 20:44:45 UTC  

@everyone Daily Question đź”–

- Could UBI (Universal Basic Income) work, if so, how would *you* implement it?

2019-07-16 20:44:53 UTC  

No

2019-07-16 20:46:53 UTC  

an income even if you don't work?

2019-07-16 20:46:55 UTC  

no

2019-07-16 20:49:53 UTC  

No

2019-07-16 20:50:16 UTC  

No.

2019-07-16 21:11:16 UTC  

Not really. It would disincentivize people from working toward higher potentials, and it would inevitably raise prices on goods in long term. I know Milton Friedman advocated something similar in the 1970s and 80s, called the Negative Income Tax. From some observations, it would have most likely had the same issues as the UBI, and is more of a radical, libertarian way of reforming taxation.

2019-07-16 21:33:49 UTC  

There is objective evidence that implementation of UBI, whether by government or nonprofits, affects the targeted groups and regions positively in an economic sense. While there will surely be many more UBI studies over the next few years and even decades, clear empirical evidence currently supports the implementation of UBI as a means of combating poverty. These cases including programs in Namibia, Brazil, Canada and others not described here provide empirical evidence supporting some form of basic or unconditional incomes. Few programs had clear negative effects on a population’s economic growth or personal incentives. However, as of 2016 there still are not enough practical studies and examples of UBI implementation on a large scale to definitively conclude that UBI will succeed in major nations such as the US or EU.

2019-07-16 23:50:54 UTC  

Bro

2019-07-16 23:51:09 UTC  

I love how in the democrat debate they told yang UBI would cost 3 trillion

2019-07-16 23:51:30 UTC  

And he was like, we'll get 800 billion from taxing corporations.

2019-07-16 23:51:38 UTC  

Wait a second Chief, that math don't add up

2019-07-17 03:22:58 UTC  

UBI can work

2019-07-17 03:24:07 UTC  

But only when automation replaces the majority of low skilled jobs and production increases to the point the standard of living could reasonably be comfortable for everyone

2019-07-17 03:24:59 UTC  

Where it would be nearly impossible to get a low skilled job and there are only a small number of high skill jobs, UBI can work

2019-07-17 03:25:42 UTC  

Today, in a society that still has a lot of technological advancement before we get to that point, no.

2019-07-17 03:25:54 UTC  

In most of our lifetimes, yes.

2019-07-17 10:47:06 UTC  

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2019-07-17 22:09:46 UTC  

@everyone Daily Question đź”–

- Which candidate would you prefer to become Prime Minister of the UK: Jeremy Hunt or Boris Johnson? Why do you prefer this candidate?

2019-07-17 22:10:37 UTC  

Boris because he is more likely to deliver Brexit

2019-07-17 22:11:06 UTC  

Boris because he'll hopefully make Brexit actually fucking happen

2019-07-17 22:11:12 UTC  

Personally I prefer Hunt, comparing the policies (Other than Brexit) between the two Hunt has a far better spending plan that will help more people, and especially businesses after brexit

2019-07-17 22:11:37 UTC  

And this is billions of pounds worth of spending both are promising

2019-07-17 22:11:47 UTC  

I prefer my mom

2019-07-17 22:12:02 UTC  

Brexit might take the headlines but they're both promising MASSIVE spending

2019-07-17 22:12:17 UTC  

my mom will poop on every competition

2019-07-17 22:12:26 UTC  

fact btw

2019-07-17 22:12:45 UTC  

Jeremy Hunt. Boris wants brexit at all costs. Jeremy wants brexit if it is reasonable.

2019-07-17 22:12:46 UTC  

Boris straight up just wants to help rich people with tax cuts and hide behind brexit

2019-07-17 22:13:45 UTC  

@IotaWolf @Trash Brexit at all costs is not a good thing. Get brexit on the best terms possible for the UK.

2019-07-17 22:14:17 UTC  

Otherwise you're just killing yourselves in order to make the rest of the kids at school feel bad.

2019-07-17 22:14:33 UTC  

Not a worthwhile tradeoff.

2019-07-17 22:14:43 UTC  

But if we cannot get a better deal than the current one then remain?

2019-07-17 22:15:10 UTC  

If remain is a better deal than hard brexit, why not?

2019-07-17 22:15:38 UTC  

The public voted for Brexit

2019-07-17 22:15:50 UTC  

Democracy takes precedent here

2019-07-17 22:15:55 UTC  

Public are thick

2019-07-17 22:16:30 UTC  

Franchise should be reduced to land-owners over the age of 30

2019-07-17 22:16:31 UTC  

The public voted for Obama too. Then the next year they voted for Trump. Have another election, but maybe this time instead of making it a referendum make it ***legally binding***

2019-07-17 22:16:56 UTC  

Because the last one wasn't no matter how much you cry and pound on the playroom floor about it.

2019-07-17 22:17:03 UTC  

Re-doing a referendum (Not an election) because you dislike the outcome is tyranny