if something isnt natural then what is it?

artificial?

Nice strawman

thats not a strawman...

its a question

please learn what a strawman is

Im not defining mental illness though. And disabilities go beyond the perfect nature of man as he is meant to be, ought to be. They can occur naturally, however they are not part of the whole of man, there is something defficient or wrong.

if we cannot distinguish between what man ought to be, and what he is, then we really cannot call anything pathological. Hence we all know what a healthy (perfect) man is, and can distinguish when he is imperfect.

He never defined mental illness, you made it about definition, hence strawman'

oof seeing what I wrote up there I need to rewrite some parts oof, either way im hopping out and deleting discord for the day kek. gotta study woo.

i got class so

bye

lole

A strawman is debating a caricature of the point you are arguing

Instead of the point

A strawman is a point you fabricate to attack instead of attacking the argument. Taking a whole paragraph of points which doesn't have a single definition and going "But that's not what the definition is" is fabricating a point

Yes

Said better

Agree

@Deleted User are you ready to clarify

how about you tell me

what a "healthy society" is

Are we really doing this?

Do you really not know what healthy means?

Do you really not know what natural is?

What the argument about?

Some people are trying to define „degeneracy“

I see

That would be easy if everyone was Aristotelian, as we could appeal to final causes of man, but obviously we can't right now

So using some gay nihilistic secular worldview there is no degeneracy, go free pedophiles

Ok so we played this game for hours

@Deleted User its vague

@Eoppa nobody thinks that. You are just being a dumbass

we have morals which are derived from our biology

Partially

It's also partly social

@Riley so then degeneracy can be tied to nature?

You are so incredibly inconsistent

gimmi like 45 minutes

im at work

Okie

and btw people do think that