Message from @McFansy

Discord ID: 621482797676101632


2019-09-11 23:04:02 UTC  

Yeah, I like that

2019-09-11 23:04:27 UTC  

But, so many times i see people exploit every free day they can get

2019-09-11 23:04:36 UTC  

fuck off commie bastard

2019-09-11 23:04:56 UTC  

you can't say they haven't done anything good

2019-09-11 23:05:14 UTC  

Unions gave everyone more rights

2019-09-11 23:05:25 UTC  

But they've gone a little far

2019-09-11 23:05:25 UTC  

Labor Unions used to be a vital and essential tool for the progression of worker's rights and good pay - unfourtnely Labor Unions are now as corrupt as the Corporations they were formed to oppose.

2019-09-11 23:05:29 UTC  

Unions are too easily infiltrated, ESOP are where its at for the employees and owners

2019-09-11 23:05:55 UTC  

Employee Stock Ownership Plan

2019-09-11 23:06:27 UTC  

What WinCo does

2019-09-11 23:06:30 UTC  

the employee's are also the owners. Gets skin in the game

2019-09-11 23:06:38 UTC  

Gives employees company stock

2019-09-11 23:07:38 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/588205956039442452/621482013676929061/unknown.png

2019-09-11 23:08:51 UTC  

state run labor union with a workers council that lets both proletarian and bourgeois reach agreements on conditions and pay and allows that workers only be fired for genuine reasons

2019-09-11 23:08:53 UTC  

Other Companies such as In-N-Out and Chick-fil-A are also great example of owners treating employees very *very* well

2019-09-11 23:09:13 UTC  

Ford Motor Company under the founder Henry Ford as well

2019-09-11 23:09:21 UTC  

Even Janitor's and Part-Time employees receive 401k plans, paid sick and vacation leave, dental and medical insurance

2019-09-11 23:10:14 UTC  

Better treated employees are more productive

2019-09-11 23:10:25 UTC  

And will stay with the company for longer

2019-09-11 23:10:31 UTC  

The problem with Unions is that the owners and workers interests are at odds. ESOP solves that problem

2019-09-11 23:10:45 UTC  

The two become one

2019-09-11 23:10:50 UTC  

Sure

2019-09-11 23:11:02 UTC  

I think Labor Unions would be better if it was 100% democratic

2019-09-11 23:11:04 UTC  

i.e no "owner"

2019-09-11 23:11:15 UTC  

Each decision is voted on by all members

2019-09-11 23:11:45 UTC  

Anyways ive gtg

2019-09-11 23:12:22 UTC  

As far as I’m concerned labor unions are a useful balance to the company in order to prevent abuse by employers if it occurs.

2019-09-11 23:14:06 UTC  

I strongly prefer unions with a council and charter over a single leader union however.

2019-09-11 23:14:34 UTC  

That makes sure the *unions* are kept in check by the employees.

2019-09-11 23:16:56 UTC  

this was a pretty great system imo
its a shame that the war prevented completion of many projects
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Labour_Front

2019-09-11 23:19:09 UTC  

@Deleted User They only existed because they unironically killed all the other unions.

2019-09-11 23:25:22 UTC  

yeh and they did a better job @DrRisen

2019-09-11 23:25:45 UTC  

@Deleted User better for some, worse for others.

2019-09-11 23:26:22 UTC  

worse for the jew and the businessmen better for the german worker

2019-09-11 23:26:44 UTC  

@Deleted User Don’t play dumb, you know what I was saying.

2019-09-11 23:27:16 UTC  

no i really dont @DrRisen

2019-09-11 23:28:44 UTC  

Better for some workers, worse for others. I’m sure the white German fascist was very well represented by the union. I don’t think the same can be said for a socialist, or a Jew, or a Slavic, or a black.

2019-09-11 23:28:51 UTC  
2019-09-11 23:31:34 UTC  

i see no issue with precluding socialists and foreigners from business
as far as i can tell most slavs within germany were considered aryan so idk what youre talking about in regards to them and as for blacks, im sure all 5 of them were very unhappy

2019-09-11 23:33:40 UTC  

@Deleted User That doesn’t deny the fact that it was better for some and worse for others. You thinking that is a good thing is irrelevant, because it *is* a thing.

2019-09-11 23:34:44 UTC  

ok
so what issue did you take with me describing it as ''worse for the jew and the businessmen better for the german worker''