Message from @CaesarKonrad

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2019-12-12 00:29:06 UTC  

That conflicts with the statement you later said.

2019-12-12 00:29:08 UTC  

They propagandize people to live in hedonistic pleasure

2019-12-12 00:29:19 UTC  

ya, because of ageless undying corporate entities. remove corporate personhood and make individuals responsible again

2019-12-12 00:29:41 UTC  

You could still do things as a collective if you choose but a person would be responsible

2019-12-12 00:29:54 UTC  

How would you make them responsible if they have neither morals nor a superior regulatory organization.

2019-12-12 00:30:07 UTC  

Natural Law

2019-12-12 00:30:08 UTC  

Corporations control social morals

2019-12-12 00:30:50 UTC  

That would just result in them pursuing self-interest, meaning pooling of more resources in almost exclusively their favor. That breaks the ability to hamper the control of corporations.

2019-12-12 00:30:54 UTC  

Like today, it's very clear that our leaders no longer represent the best interests of the people they serve.

2019-12-12 00:31:04 UTC  

That’s because of capitalism

2019-12-12 00:31:27 UTC  

that's because of rampant regulation.

2019-12-12 00:31:36 UTC  

it has nothing to do with capitalism

2019-12-12 00:31:49 UTC  

What rampant regulation.

2019-12-12 00:31:51 UTC  

capitalism is the natural state

2019-12-12 00:32:01 UTC  

Yes because politicians are owned by corporations to push what they want because of regulations

2019-12-12 00:32:02 UTC  

humans trading labor for value

2019-12-12 00:32:03 UTC  

Okay

2019-12-12 00:32:15 UTC  

Corporations are continuously attempting to lobby to Congress and attempt to pass themselves off as personal entities.

2019-12-12 00:32:17 UTC  

there is literally no other way

2019-12-12 00:32:22 UTC  

That’s counterintuitive to regulation.

2019-12-12 00:32:25 UTC  

No?

2019-12-12 00:32:33 UTC  

Corporatism and socialism

2019-12-12 00:32:41 UTC  

Agreed with corporatism.

2019-12-12 00:32:52 UTC  

besides Luxury gay space Communism....which is a fantasy.. this is not star trek

2019-12-12 00:33:03 UTC  

I agree more with corporatism but not socialism

2019-12-12 00:33:23 UTC  

Corporatism is an interesting mixed economic model.

2019-12-12 00:33:30 UTC  

Corporatism is epic

2019-12-12 00:33:35 UTC  

And so natsyndie

2019-12-12 00:33:44 UTC  

I haven’t studied that one enough.

2019-12-12 00:37:31 UTC  

Capitalism is a replication of natural biology. Organisms trade effort/work for resources/value.
The ONLY way to form a society without labor/value exchange is if you remove the biological element. Therefore Socialism and Communism advocate for the destruction of not only individuality but natural biological function as a whole.
The only way for Communism to work is to remove the human element.

2019-12-12 00:38:13 UTC  

**mic drop**

2019-12-12 00:41:01 UTC  

That's absolutely fine. Capitalism is basically the method to sustain the upkeep of the state; a planned economy is needed while you're establishing the state because you need to allocate raw materials/sectors that will ultimately allow you to prop up the consumer economy at a later time.

But to recklessly pursue unregulated capitalism is dangerous in that you would allow predatory corporations to destroy that competition, and in turn hamper innovation.

2019-12-12 00:41:03 UTC  

Even in Star Trek they realized that it was retarded to just fly around not paying for anything, that's why they invented "platinum bars" as a medium of exchange.

2019-12-12 00:42:05 UTC  

Well if there is a predator nature will find a way around it. either by killing the beast or evolving to not be threatened

2019-12-12 00:42:13 UTC  

"Nature finds a way"

2019-12-12 00:42:16 UTC  

So you need some form of regulation, which we are currently lacking because of evident tax loopholes for corporations and PAC lobbying.

2019-12-12 00:42:21 UTC  

oh ye of little faith

2019-12-12 00:42:39 UTC  

How will you kill the megacorporation.

2019-12-12 00:42:40 UTC  

What is a porcupine?

2019-12-12 00:42:43 UTC  

Say, you're a layman.

2019-12-12 00:43:20 UTC  

a layman can fire a cannon and gun