Message from @el pebble
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Does God have the capacity to apply limitation to his own power
the transition from possibility to actuality or from act to potentiality, occurs only in creatures
why
it exists in things that arent alive
matter and form
when it is said that God can or could do a thing, the terms are not to be understood in the sense in which they are applied to created causes, but as conveying the idea of a being, the range of Whose activity is limited only by His sovereign will
By saying the God cannot transition to a state of potentiality denies Christ's existence
lol no it does not
It does
Christ was a human with divinity
still human
stil created
still with potency
This isn’t the catholic view maybe Protestant
The Church holds he is human
a human with divinity
The church holds is human and divine, not a human with divinity if you get the distinction
yes as in he is without sin
the distinction is negligible really
it is a form of potency that God undertook
but this is straying too far from my question
Does the all-powerful God have the capacity to limit his power
not restrain by parameters but to permanently quantify a level to it, thereby severing it from an all-powerful nature
having a sovereign will is a form of power if he were to have the capacity to limit himself, for example to remove his own will, he would not be all powerful
so you are saying he does not have the capacity to do it
the ability to limit oneself is repugnant to his will and therefore his omnipotence
Does he have the capacity to do it
the capacity to limit oneself is antithetical to the concept of omnipotence
@el pebble what do you mean limit His power?
he can withold his hand, yes
so he can not limit himself because it would be repugnant to his will and therefore his omnipotence, if it were to go against his will god would be able to be acted upon rather than to act, which would mean that he is not omnipotent.
then he is not all-powerful
If he were omnipotent his capacity would be limitless
if he was limited he is not all-powerful
omnipotence does not exist
he is either limited by his capacity to limit himself or he is limited by his inability to limit himself
like i said before you are thinking of power as in relation to something else
this is the difference between absolutely possible and possible in relation to.
possible absolutely is the manner in which terms stand together so as to form a cohesive concept. Something like a square-circle is impossible because the definition of each of these terms is mutually exclusive so we cannot join them together to mean anything intelligible just as a limited god is not an intelligible concept.
No an incapacity is a limitation
there is not an exemption to this idea