Message from @roach (secondform)

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2019-11-29 00:55:48 UTC  

Sidereal is a meme. Unless you're using an Eastern system, its effects havent necessarily been calculated for here on the West.

2019-11-29 00:57:56 UTC  

Literally the only thing actually from the Vedas in terms of Vedic astrology is shit about the moon

2019-11-29 00:58:04 UTC  

Which is kinda valid

2019-11-29 00:58:21 UTC  

But they had no system for the planets or even zodiac signs

2019-11-29 00:58:41 UTC  

That's all after the fact borrowed from the west

2019-11-29 00:58:54 UTC  

An adjusted to be wrong lmao

2019-11-29 00:59:25 UTC  

And sidereal astrologers don't even agree where the zodiac begins

2019-11-29 00:59:35 UTC  

Whereas all western astrologers do

2019-11-29 01:58:37 UTC  

@Verchiel the system that i use is based on how the chart would look like in eastern system but with the actual planetary location on the visible sky , vedic doesn’t even include all the planets

2019-11-29 02:02:09 UTC  
2019-11-29 02:21:42 UTC  

The Western astrologers of the past were thoroughly familiar with the procession phenomenon

2019-11-29 02:21:47 UTC  

Im going to copy a post I wrote above

2019-11-29 02:21:59 UTC  

*Signs =/= Constellations
Signs are portions of the sky divided, named after the constellations
Western Astrology was not developed to be a sidereal system, and that is precisely why the signs were devised; people were aware that the fixed stars were not entirely fixed.
And tbqh I feel more inclined to utilize a system of astrology developed and maintained in use by people who became the most proficient astrologers, and thus astronomers, known to the rest of the world.
In Western astrology, astrological signs are the twelve 30° sectors of the ecliptic, starting at the vernal equinox (one of the intersections of the ecliptic with the celestial equator), also known as the First Point of Aries. The order of the astrological signs is Aries, Taurus, Gemini, Cancer, Leo, Virgo, Libra, Scorpio, Sagittarius, Capricorn, Aquarius and Pisces. Each sector is named for a constellation it passes through.*

2019-11-29 02:22:09 UTC  
2019-11-29 02:24:01 UTC  

Where this gets complicated is in the fact that, when a system of astrology has been devised, you are now making predictions and observations within the unique boundaries and properties that comprise the system.

2019-11-29 02:25:32 UTC  

By default, you can say that each system is able to produce valid predictions. The system's reliability to make those predictions will depend on the length of time it's been utilized, giving more opportunity for trial and error, that more reliable data might be compiled as a result.

2019-11-29 02:25:59 UTC  

This is why I don't accept the idea of shoehorning in sidereal models into the Western system.

2019-11-29 02:27:44 UTC  

Western astrology is based on the predictive value the planets interacting within portions of the sky under a given power. They (the signs) were named after those constellations which initially inhabited them.

2019-11-29 02:28:41 UTC  

Use a Sidereal model if you wish, but if you want better predictive power, you ought to *use a method of astrology which has, longstanding, utilized a sidereal model.*

2019-12-05 15:01:41 UTC  

😢

2019-12-09 18:22:10 UTC  

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2019-12-09 19:04:05 UTC  

Lmao

2019-12-10 05:11:53 UTC  

full moon coming up

2019-12-10 05:11:55 UTC  

and friday the 13th

2019-12-10 05:12:06 UTC  

and geminid meteor shower

2019-12-10 05:12:10 UTC  

keep watching the skis

2019-12-20 18:45:52 UTC  

solstice dec 22nd at 4:19 UTC

2019-12-20 18:46:12 UTC  

there's also a meteor shower at that time

2019-12-20 19:11:30 UTC  

@chonkyfire solstice? or impact.

2019-12-20 20:29:03 UTC  

What

2019-12-20 20:40:14 UTC  

meteor

2019-12-20 20:40:16 UTC  

impat

2019-12-20 20:45:58 UTC  

No, just a shower

2019-12-20 20:46:14 UTC  

An impact would probably be an alert lol

2019-12-20 22:54:08 UTC  

oof y

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/619778457370361866/657717400619188235/unknown.png

2019-12-20 22:54:15 UTC  

I'm a scorpio <:pensiveclown:654510538101096489>

2019-12-20 22:54:33 UTC  

never liked the astrology shit much it's kinda funny though

2019-12-21 01:09:12 UTC  

@zoefiri >I'm a scorpio

2019-12-21 01:09:14 UTC  

That explains a lot