Message from @Dead Banská

Discord ID: 541462151337082900


2019-02-03 03:31:14 UTC  

From his 3rd Epistle

2019-02-03 03:31:17 UTC  

He was a dyophysite

2019-02-03 03:32:11 UTC  

So let me ask you this, do you actually believe that the true Church is a small sect that is mostly restricted to a specific geographical location

2019-02-03 03:33:07 UTC  

"Even if Catholics faithful to tradition are reduced to a handful, they are the one who are the true Church of Jesus Christ."

2019-02-03 03:33:10 UTC  

that's St Athanasius

2019-02-03 03:33:24 UTC  

I hope you're not suggesting that truth is decided by a majority of bishops

2019-02-03 03:34:00 UTC  

It may not be so, but the Church is universal, it isn’t shut off somewhere

2019-02-03 03:34:10 UTC  

We agree

2019-02-03 03:34:41 UTC  

The church has historically been much bigger, it is at its weakest right now

2019-02-03 03:34:49 UTC  

That doesn't detract from its truth

2019-02-03 03:35:00 UTC  

It’s been at it’s weakest for 1500 years?

2019-02-03 03:35:13 UTC  

No?

2019-02-03 03:35:22 UTC  

The CotE was huge up into the 14th century

2019-02-03 03:35:23 UTC  

Fresh is Orthodox

2019-02-03 03:35:30 UTC  

it started declining after that

2019-02-03 03:35:42 UTC  

it was under very heavy persecution in the 20th century during the Assyrian genocide

2019-02-03 03:36:06 UTC  

yea, the church being based in Assyria was bad news

2019-02-03 03:36:11 UTC  

fuckin muzzies

2019-02-03 03:36:17 UTC  

Well, I don’t believe God would allow His Church to decline to such an extent. The gospel was said to be preached to all nations

2019-02-03 03:36:47 UTC  

A semi-Arian could have said that to an Orthodox Christian in the 4th century

2019-02-03 03:37:16 UTC  

The CotE spread Christianity to as far as China, Mongolia, and Japan

2019-02-03 03:37:29 UTC  

And it has been preserved in India to this day

2019-02-03 03:37:35 UTC  

The Arian crisis didn’t last for very long, your sect has been in decline for many centuries

2019-02-03 03:38:17 UTC  

Since the 14th

2019-02-03 03:38:43 UTC  

Before that, it was by many estimates larger than the Latin church

2019-02-03 03:40:04 UTC  

I would rather talk on theological grounds than appeals to the size of the church

2019-02-03 03:40:18 UTC  

one can say the catholic church and the orthodox church suffered the same

2019-02-03 03:40:22 UTC  

^

2019-02-03 03:41:01 UTC  

The church is probably leaving its period of decline now, at least it seems so to me

2019-02-03 03:41:13 UTC  

Are you Assyrian?

2019-02-03 03:41:18 UTC  

No

2019-02-03 03:41:24 UTC  

Along with about 15% of the church

2019-02-03 03:43:12 UTC  

Well, I’m no theologian, so I’m not exactly equipped to debate that matter, but as a rule I don’t take seriously small sects claiming to be the true Church. Same with the Sedevecantists and those sorts of people

2019-02-03 03:44:12 UTC  

The difference with the Sedevecantists is that they do not occupy any apostolic see

2019-02-03 03:44:41 UTC  

Depends, there are Conclavists with their own ‘Popes’

2019-02-03 03:45:04 UTC  

Their elections weren't valid though

2019-02-03 03:45:30 UTC  

Church of the East has her own Sedevacantists, they are called Old Calendarists and elected their own Patriarch

2019-02-03 03:45:39 UTC  

Maybe not, but I don’t believe your hierarchy is valid either

2019-02-03 03:45:55 UTC  

Respectfully it is valid whether you believe it or not

2019-02-03 03:46:20 UTC  

The issue of our apostolic succession has been firmly settled

2019-02-03 03:47:54 UTC  

You might have ‘Apostolic succession’ in a physical sense, but it doesn’t mean you’re spiritually descended from the apostles. The Lutheran Church of Sweden will also claim apostolic succession