Dead Banská

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2019-02-03 03:28:12 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

2019-02-03 03:28:30 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

don't speak so confidently when you are wrong my friend @FreshWholeMilk

2019-02-03 03:28:33 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

I am an Assyrian Christian

2019-02-03 03:28:36 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

have you read any of Nestorius?

2019-02-03 03:30:40 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Nestorianism is the heresy that Christ is in two persons. Nestorius never held the heresy that bore his name

2019-02-03 03:30:58 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

"They confuse each nature through the mutability that arises through the blending, even though in reality each nature is adored through an unconfused conjunction of the highest sort in the single person of the only-begotten."

2019-02-03 03:31:05 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

From his 2nd Epistle to Pope Celestine

2019-02-03 03:31:12 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

"In the case of the term Theotokos, I am not opposed to those who want to say it, unless it should advance to the confusion of natures in the manner of the madness of Apollinaris or Arius."

2019-02-03 03:31:14 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

From his 3rd Epistle

2019-02-03 03:31:17 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

He was a dyophysite

2019-02-03 03:33:07 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

"Even if Catholics faithful to tradition are reduced to a handful, they are the one who are the true Church of Jesus Christ."

2019-02-03 03:33:10 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

that's St Athanasius

2019-02-03 03:33:24 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

I hope you're not suggesting that truth is decided by a majority of bishops

2019-02-03 03:34:10 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

We agree

2019-02-03 03:34:41 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

The church has historically been much bigger, it is at its weakest right now

2019-02-03 03:34:49 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

That doesn't detract from its truth

2019-02-03 03:35:13 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

No?

2019-02-03 03:35:22 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

The CotE was huge up into the 14th century

2019-02-03 03:35:30 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

it started declining after that

2019-02-03 03:35:42 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

it was under very heavy persecution in the 20th century during the Assyrian genocide

2019-02-03 03:36:47 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

A semi-Arian could have said that to an Orthodox Christian in the 4th century

2019-02-03 03:37:16 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

The CotE spread Christianity to as far as China, Mongolia, and Japan

2019-02-03 03:37:29 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

And it has been preserved in India to this day

2019-02-03 03:38:17 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Since the 14th

2019-02-03 03:38:43 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Before that, it was by many estimates larger than the Latin church

2019-02-03 03:40:04 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

I would rather talk on theological grounds than appeals to the size of the church

2019-02-03 03:40:22 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

^

2019-02-03 03:41:01 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

The church is probably leaving its period of decline now, at least it seems so to me

2019-02-03 03:41:18 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

No

2019-02-03 03:41:24 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Along with about 15% of the church

2019-02-03 03:44:12 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

The difference with the Sedevecantists is that they do not occupy any apostolic see

2019-02-03 03:45:04 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Their elections weren't valid though

2019-02-03 03:45:30 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Church of the East has her own Sedevacantists, they are called Old Calendarists and elected their own Patriarch

2019-02-03 03:45:55 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Respectfully it is valid whether you believe it or not

2019-02-03 03:46:20 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

The issue of our apostolic succession has been firmly settled

2019-02-03 03:48:05 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Stockholm isn't an apostolic see though

2019-02-03 03:48:46 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Bawai Soro proved Selecuia-Ctesiphon developed independently from Antioch in his book

2019-02-03 03:49:22 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

What do you mean a legitimate succession

2019-02-03 03:49:27 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Recognizing him as orthodox? Of course not

2019-02-03 03:49:37 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Right

2019-02-03 03:50:29 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

If the issue is whether or not we are heretics, we are not

2019-02-03 03:51:06 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

That's fair

2019-02-03 03:51:25 UTC [Nationalist Union #general]  

Don't conflate Nestorius with Baptists though, then 🙃

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