Message from @Hand Banana
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@Stanislav Đajić @Kurt no masks at this event
I know, but I wasn't necessarily thinking about the event.
This is a channel regarding gear for the event.
Years down the road (or sooner, idk), mass demonstrations on our part may get CS'd, but I doubt this one would be.
@Erika you don't wear a gas mask unless you are getting gassed. You kerep it in the pocket until needed. If we are getting gassed, getting arrested for the no mask law is the least of your problems.
Flag pole sources? Ordered an IE flag, just need a pole so can use a C'ville.
you can get 3/4 inch dowel rod from lowes
theres some pretty cool ones an amazon
@Kurt even if you're getting gassed, you don't put on a mask. You deal with it and move away from the area where the cops are trying to disperse people. If you choose to wear a mask, then you'll be getting gassed and also be getting arrested and being charged with a felony for violating the no mask laws. No masks at this event literally means no masks.
^^^^
What kind of goggles are ideal?
@GreatTarnNord probably no goggles.
If police are popping tear gas or pepper bombs, that means they're trying to disperse a crowd, which means they've probably given everyone in the area fair warning to get the fuck out. In that case, you shouldn't be near the gas because you decided to evacuate the area. Goggles might also be considered a mask, so I wouldn't take the risk.
I am more worried about our opposition, and their m80s in bottles and rocks.
@GreatTarnNord You can get ballistic sunglasses, but a pair of ANSI safety glasses should stop glass and shit
What do ballistic sunglasses go for?
These are solid price, and have a god review.
https://www.amazon.com/Wiley-Saber-Advanced-Sunglasses-Vermillion/dp/B004H5L2B0/ref=as_at?creativeASIN=B004H5L2B0&linkCode=w61&imprToken=cJtcvZlBFxFiE4rt6LxVQw&slotNum=2&tag=ssafety-20
Good*
I found a better price from another vendor on Amazon.
Those would work fine yeah
Wiley X is a good brand
If CS makes you freak out you should harden up. It's an irritant. I did 5 minutes in a chamber with no mask.
If you can't hold your breath and leave you have other physical issues.
Can confirm
CS gas is easy
Will also acknowledge that OC fucking sucks and is not nearly as sufferable
Over all though at least a pair of sunglasses would do a lot for minimizing it IN you eyes and you can quickly decontaminate the surrounding areas before it runs into your eyes
Yeah if you look at the news story about the KKK the opposition female said that 3 people were arrested and charged for covering up their face while being gassed.
FWIW I felt like the gas mask demo in KY was pretty LARP-y, especially since only 3-4 people at most actually had them.
I agree with simply getting out of the way if we get gassed THIS TIME, but in the long term, we can't keep taking a completely deferential posture to the police and also gain ground politically.
CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE is stupid when you're just an anonymous arrest statistic for a cause no one cares about, but when there are enough people watching, it can inspire your supporters and make the state appear to be losing its power.
Think of 1000+ actual white nationalists marching in DC, getting confronted by a bigger crowd of antifa and nonwhites, getting gassed cuz anarcho-tyranny, putting on masks and wading into the enemy.
Backpacks and helmets just in case, being inside of the backpacks accepted or no?
You can get a bump cap insert for a ball cap for like $5. I think if we were to show up with helmets it'd be like we're inviting antifa to attack us and would ruin the "peacefully assembling" look. Cops are going to be separating us anyway right?
ERB 19402 Create a Cap Insert with Foam Pad https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JCCKR6O/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_yRLBzbF1X64SP
Thats goofy
It works like a hard hat, just concealable underneath your cap.
Does not meet ANSI/ISEA Z89.1 requirements
For what pvrpose
Its a flexible piece of plastic that doesnt negate impacts
Its to stop you from bumping your head in crawlspaces and shit, not to stop a brick
@Hand Banana What do you think about this as an option?