Message from @GreatTarnNord

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2017-07-18 00:40:00 UTC  

they are better than the m50 IMO since they can use NATO filters

2017-07-18 00:42:48 UTC  

thats a really good deal

2017-07-18 00:45:58 UTC  

I've seen new Swedish A4's for much cheaper, like $60 at most.

2017-07-18 00:47:05 UTC  

In any event, even the cheapest ones that have a good seal will protect against tear gas.

2017-07-18 00:51:39 UTC  

Do the swedish ones use NATO filters?

2017-07-18 00:57:05 UTC  

Yes.

2017-07-18 01:01:48 UTC  

@Stanislav Đajić @Kurt no masks at this event

2017-07-18 01:02:32 UTC  

I know, but I wasn't necessarily thinking about the event.

2017-07-18 01:04:02 UTC  

This is a channel regarding gear for the event.

2017-07-18 01:04:04 UTC  

Years down the road (or sooner, idk), mass demonstrations on our part may get CS'd, but I doubt this one would be.

2017-07-18 01:29:35 UTC  

@Erika you don't wear a gas mask unless you are getting gassed. You kerep it in the pocket until needed. If we are getting gassed, getting arrested for the no mask law is the least of your problems.

2017-07-18 01:35:37 UTC  

Flag pole sources? Ordered an IE flag, just need a pole so can use a C'ville.

2017-07-18 01:36:15 UTC  

you can get 3/4 inch dowel rod from lowes

2017-07-18 01:46:43 UTC  

theres some pretty cool ones an amazon

2017-07-18 04:21:31 UTC  

@Kurt even if you're getting gassed, you don't put on a mask. You deal with it and move away from the area where the cops are trying to disperse people. If you choose to wear a mask, then you'll be getting gassed and also be getting arrested and being charged with a felony for violating the no mask laws. No masks at this event literally means no masks.

2017-07-18 04:21:51 UTC  

^^^^

2017-07-18 05:01:26 UTC  

What kind of goggles are ideal?

2017-07-18 05:04:15 UTC  

@GreatTarnNord probably no goggles.

2017-07-18 05:07:59 UTC  

If police are popping tear gas or pepper bombs, that means they're trying to disperse a crowd, which means they've probably given everyone in the area fair warning to get the fuck out. In that case, you shouldn't be near the gas because you decided to evacuate the area. Goggles might also be considered a mask, so I wouldn't take the risk.

2017-07-18 05:33:06 UTC  

I am more worried about our opposition, and their m80s in bottles and rocks.

2017-07-18 05:35:15 UTC  

@GreatTarnNord You can get ballistic sunglasses, but a pair of ANSI safety glasses should stop glass and shit

2017-07-18 05:35:51 UTC  

What do ballistic sunglasses go for?

2017-07-18 06:30:51 UTC  

Good*
I found a better price from another vendor on Amazon.

2017-07-18 07:13:51 UTC  

Those would work fine yeah

2017-07-18 07:13:58 UTC  

Wiley X is a good brand

2017-07-18 09:17:11 UTC  

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2017-07-18 16:04:47 UTC  

If CS makes you freak out you should harden up. It's an irritant. I did 5 minutes in a chamber with no mask.

If you can't hold your breath and leave you have other physical issues.

2017-07-18 16:10:35 UTC  

Can confirm

2017-07-18 16:10:40 UTC  

CS gas is easy

2017-07-18 16:10:58 UTC  

Will also acknowledge that OC fucking sucks and is not nearly as sufferable

2017-07-18 16:12:34 UTC  

Over all though at least a pair of sunglasses would do a lot for minimizing it IN you eyes and you can quickly decontaminate the surrounding areas before it runs into your eyes

2017-07-18 16:53:18 UTC  

Yeah if you look at the news story about the KKK the opposition female said that 3 people were arrested and charged for covering up their face while being gassed.

2017-07-18 16:59:17 UTC  

FWIW I felt like the gas mask demo in KY was pretty LARP-y, especially since only 3-4 people at most actually had them.

I agree with simply getting out of the way if we get gassed THIS TIME, but in the long term, we can't keep taking a completely deferential posture to the police and also gain ground politically.

2017-07-18 17:04:31 UTC  

CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE is stupid when you're just an anonymous arrest statistic for a cause no one cares about, but when there are enough people watching, it can inspire your supporters and make the state appear to be losing its power.

2017-07-18 17:06:20 UTC  

Think of 1000+ actual white nationalists marching in DC, getting confronted by a bigger crowd of antifa and nonwhites, getting gassed cuz anarcho-tyranny, putting on masks and wading into the enemy.

2017-07-18 18:44:36 UTC  

Backpacks and helmets just in case, being inside of the backpacks accepted or no?

2017-07-18 18:57:57 UTC  

You can get a bump cap insert for a ball cap for like $5. I think if we were to show up with helmets it'd be like we're inviting antifa to attack us and would ruin the "peacefully assembling" look. Cops are going to be separating us anyway right?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/321380582112231425/336944704220561408/IMG_20170616_175611966.jpg

2017-07-18 19:01:06 UTC  
2017-07-18 19:41:49 UTC  

Thats goofy