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2019-02-16 08:50:59 UTC  

same for intruders to your home

2019-02-16 08:58:02 UTC  

@CronoSaturn 1. Martyrs only matter when your goal is to solve the conflict diplomatically... but this conflict can't be solved diplomatically. 2. "Dreadful life in prison" of a "bitch who’ll eat out half the cell block for a cup ramen" is a fairy tail. That is not how western prisons operate.

2019-02-16 09:02:09 UTC  

Martyrdom is actually more important when it’s not able to be settled diplomatically as your creating a standard bearer and drawing opposition. You don’t want to do that. Terrorism relies on creating an overreaction and recruiting otherwise moderate actors.
Also I have no idea how you don’t think people can’t be prison sluts in the west or have a shit time of it

2019-02-16 09:02:41 UTC  

Do you lads actually trust any government to put people to death

2019-02-16 09:02:58 UTC  

the false conviction rate is too high

2019-02-16 09:03:09 UTC  

Well to a degree, the cops and the military must be able to do so to function

2019-02-16 09:03:19 UTC  

>american cops

2019-02-16 09:03:25 UTC  

lick those boots BOY

2019-02-16 09:03:37 UTC  

Blow job better than no job

2019-02-16 09:03:49 UTC  

the enforcer caste should be kept under lock and key

2019-02-16 09:04:04 UTC  

How are they not atm

2019-02-16 09:04:07 UTC  

or you get the current situation where the police think they are shepherds

2019-02-16 09:04:21 UTC  

and adopt a shepherd mentality of superiority to the general public

2019-02-16 09:04:44 UTC  

Ideally a country would be so decentralized such a culture could not develop

2019-02-16 09:04:45 UTC  

You get that in any area of expertise.

2019-02-16 09:04:55 UTC  

are plumbers infringing upon my rights

2019-02-16 09:05:16 UTC  

that's true regarding compsci faggots and engineers though

2019-02-16 09:05:17 UTC  

When they do a shit job and don’t clean up after themselves yeah

2019-02-16 09:05:35 UTC  

It’s true regarding any deeply specialised profession

2019-02-16 09:05:35 UTC  

high level STEM lads have a superiority complex over the general public

2019-02-16 09:05:39 UTC  

and it's far worse than cops

2019-02-16 09:06:06 UTC  

the problem with the current system is that we protect the police when they do wrong

2019-02-16 09:06:17 UTC  

Do we?

2019-02-16 09:06:20 UTC  

people's courts are sometimes necessary to keep the government in line

2019-02-16 09:06:33 UTC  

Say a SWAT team accidentally raids your home

2019-02-16 09:06:44 UTC  

you protect yourself

2019-02-16 09:07:01 UTC  

the SWAT team then likely murders you or beats you half to death and puts you through a legal process taking years

2019-02-16 09:07:01 UTC  

Jury serves that function and swat is directed.
Don’t shoot cops fucktard

2019-02-16 09:07:03 UTC  

it's happened before

2019-02-16 09:07:14 UTC  

>>>

2019-02-16 09:07:18 UTC  

Yeah rightly so. You shot at a cop wingnut

2019-02-16 09:07:18 UTC  

it's happened multiple times dude

2019-02-16 09:07:26 UTC  

Don’t shoot cops

2019-02-16 09:07:28 UTC  

SWAT raids the wrong place all the fucking time

2019-02-16 09:07:39 UTC  

police infringe your rights all the time

2019-02-16 09:07:43 UTC  

Happy. They take you in. You go to court

2019-02-16 09:07:48 UTC  

rule of law is not respected

2019-02-16 09:07:57 UTC  

the issue with the current system is that it literally cannot back down

2019-02-16 09:08:07 UTC  

regardless of who is at fault

2019-02-16 09:08:10 UTC  

that's why we things like Waco

2019-02-16 09:08:22 UTC  

How is this demonstrating rule of law is not respected when a citizen starts trying to be Rambo