HWALP PLS

I am swiss

@David V remove all your specialists

and change your ideology

Well, @Kazimir Malevich , you little smelly turd, theyre red pills, if you knew anything about it, you know that you use red pills when it makes sense to. Depending on where people are you have to bring them along to understand the truth of a situation. Theyre not all for your level, in fact theyre not even for you. Theyre for you to have as tools to use when you find it makes sense to, you little contrarian worm.

You misunderstand

Kazimir is a redpill in and of himself

kazimir *IS* the redpill

Who else kazpilled here?

Freeeom you statist fags

Is there such a thing as to much freedom?

I would say yes. For instance, most would support libel and slander laws

statism gud

That limits a freedom to tell a lie in exchange for security

Freedom

Ello

This is a false dichotomy

The argument is that slandering someone violates their freedom, but that thought process isn't too different from saying hate speech violates the freedom of minorities

In New York VS Ferber the ACLU pushed for child pornography to be protected under the 1st amendment. I for one argue that it does not fall under thr 1st amendment and the Supreme Court agreed. But that is a limitation of freedom to some extent correct?

>aclu

Freedom

The ACLU pushes for child porn to be protected under the first admendment

If I must choose, security because you can't exercise any rights or liberties if you're dead

wtf

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Security definitely

fellas better debate topic should we just get rid of new york

Civilization and the higher values/principles of society are based on the foundation of power, violence, and security. First you must establish a stable order where there is one dominant force who rules and then people living under this dominion may develop sophisticated ideals

In other words, freedom depends on security.

As bad as it sounds that's true snake.

wanting more freedom nowadays is translated to "ME WANT MORE DOPAMINE"

Wanting more vs defending what we have.

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100% pure freedom is anarchy. And in my opinion anarchy is a perfect society that can not truely exist in a imperfect world.