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I NEED your HELP
you guy's have NazBol as a rank but not NatSoc or Ethno-Nationalist?
nor third positionism?
Thatβs other, fashit
r u saying u would take those roles
yes
I bet you don't even know what fascism is ying
Course I donβt. Iβve only been here for 5 seconds so I havnt heard this spiel before
@Friend of Greatest Ally Yes we do
I have no spiel, I am just pointing out your ignorance of something you dislike, if you don't understand something how can you hate it?
Other Nationalist
ah
Iβd see fascism as a political ideology which seeks legitimacy through force, to limit internal competition and to encompass the widest possible swathe of a nation under a single system to the exclusion of others
I wouldn't agree with that definition because Stalin would be a fascist according to that definition
Communism seeks legitimacy through the proletariat
Hot take
Stalinism isn't communism
not at all as there are a million and one different versions of fascism and not all are forceful like Hitler or Mussolini which did not force people to stay in that nation and you do not need to exclude other people if you are helping your own.
If we are being realistic here
it is authoritarianism and state socialism
which isn't communism, or at least not supposed to be
it gained legitimacy through the state
Stalin also claimed legitimacy on that basis, hence Stalin could not be described as fascistic. Stalin has significant deviations from more traditional Marxist thought but still adheres to the foundations.
Legitimacy and power are two different things
>Communism seeks legitimacy through the proletariat
So does Fascism
so
lol
Stalinism is more a centralized authoritarian.
Fascism is not exclusively seeking power by garnering upper class support
or even middle class
it is supposed to captivate support irrespective of economic category
As such it does include the proletariat
Strasserism and Peronism may arguably, but fascism does not seek the support of the proletariat but of the volk, the nation, etc