Message from @ΕΘΝΙΚH ΑΝΤΙΣΤΑΣΗ

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2019-09-12 21:54:19 UTC  

I'll discuss more later.

2019-09-12 21:54:38 UTC  

Okay

2019-09-13 14:30:44 UTC  

I read the symposium, by many considered the main work by plato, it literally is a conversation about love by the intellectuals of his era. Both in Italian and ancient Greek. Now I asked the question to you too, what did you read by plato? Also at least be consistent in your claims, don't compliment me 2 days before for then say I know nothing about ancient Greece "as expected"

2019-09-13 14:31:35 UTC  

well not that you don't know but you completely misunderstand the texts and what plato and the other ancient philosophers said on the 'same sex relationships'

2019-09-13 14:31:48 UTC  

nowadays it's automatically viewed/referred to sexual perversions

2019-09-13 14:31:55 UTC  

which was not true in the ancient times

2019-09-13 14:32:10 UTC  

in fact I don't even belief they had a concept of 'sexuality' in the ancient times like we do today

2019-09-13 14:32:14 UTC  

in the perverted modern world

2019-09-13 14:32:24 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/604498916687478784/622077124567892008/1509176371757.png

2019-09-13 14:32:30 UTC  

yeah translations often are iffy
Like pederasty is translated to fucking boys
When in those days it was more like a teacher student thing iirc

2019-09-13 14:32:50 UTC  

you damn Greek mf stop spamming the damn chat

2019-09-13 14:33:03 UTC  

fuck off cunt

2019-09-13 14:33:09 UTC  

@LeKeks this is serious conversation

2019-09-13 14:33:09 UTC  

you're not part of this conversation faggot

2019-09-13 14:33:22 UTC  

Okay let's calm down though

2019-09-13 14:33:51 UTC  

Let's fight

2019-09-13 14:34:02 UTC  

fucking retarded kids having their inputs unasked for

2019-09-13 14:34:09 UTC  

I'm having a serious conversation

2019-09-13 14:34:16 UTC  

and you decide to stick your fucking nose in

2019-09-13 14:34:17 UTC  

@ΕΘΝΙΚH ΑΝΤΙΣΤΑΣΗ I remember sending you an book debunking faggotry in Greece and you shut it down since it was written by a libtard smdh

2019-09-13 14:34:37 UTC  

when

2019-09-13 14:35:14 UTC  

What’s the difference between a Greek and a pedophile?

2019-09-13 14:35:19 UTC  

what book? I don't remember doing that

2019-09-13 14:35:28 UTC  

@ΕΘΝΙΚH ΑΝΤΙΣΤΑΣΗ some shitfest about greeks being gay

2019-09-13 14:35:40 UTC  

It was written by a liberal parliament member but still was anti gae

2019-09-13 14:35:47 UTC  

send it again in DMs because I legit don't remember

2019-09-13 14:35:50 UTC  

oh right Adonis?

2019-09-13 14:36:21 UTC  

I think you're mistaking me for someone else or idk, that was when I was having a political spergout about adonis being an ND shill and whatnot

2019-09-13 14:36:35 UTC  

I think I already read some parts of it

2019-09-13 14:37:26 UTC  

Sent

2019-09-13 14:37:42 UTC  

yeah I don't remember you sending me that

2019-09-13 14:37:46 UTC  

but I seen it before anyways

2019-09-13 14:39:16 UTC  

It's a good book

2019-09-13 14:39:23 UTC  

Uses ancient greek sources only.

2019-09-13 14:44:27 UTC  

Well you're right about pederasty. @ΕΘΝΙΚH ΑΝΤΙΣΤΑΣΗ even though most modern historians consider it a close teacher-learner relationship which also had homosexual shades. I can understand not trusting them because of propaganda, as I do too, the problem here is that plato explicitly refers to λακκόπρωκοι if I'm not mistaken, which only makes sense as homosexuals in the context on what he'a saying. I remember explaining you this as well some time ago, maybe it was @Pelkių monstras and basically they describe exactly what is the state of homosexuality in the various πόλεις in fact some considered it acceptable while others didn't. But mostly they associate the places in which it is not accepted with the adjective βάρβαρος in fact they also distinguish homosexuality from a pederast relationship.

2019-09-13 14:47:04 UTC  

And we're talking about 400 b.C. here

2019-09-13 14:49:21 UTC  

What did you read about Plato though, I'm actually curious

2019-09-13 15:01:33 UTC  

@anthr0pos I read several things about what Plato said on homosexuality in the Symposium, but if you go to the 'Laws' and the 'Republic' part in book VIII you will find that he condemns homosexual intercourse because it renders men unfit for marriage and that it's contrary to human nature.

2019-09-13 15:03:04 UTC  

Good shit

2019-09-13 15:47:58 UTC  

Plato was based af.