Message from RCO Nick-TX in Charlottesville 2.0 #general_1


2017-07-25 01:39:36 UTC  

Oh do you?

2017-07-25 01:39:38 UTC  

@Kurt what about stragglers?

2017-07-25 01:40:29 UTC  

If people show up early and can't get into the park they're going to be prey for the few antifa and blm. Who show up early if everyone has to shuffle feet until noon...

2017-07-25 01:40:31 UTC  

I am coming from CA, arriving in Richmand at 11:40, then am heading to the park.

2017-07-25 01:40:56 UTC  

@RCO Nick-TX why would there be stragglers from the setup crew?

2017-07-25 01:41:25 UTC  

I'm pretty sure that there will be others arriving a little late as well.

2017-07-25 01:41:29 UTC  

Putting up obstacles to attendance is a bad idea. We need all we can get.

2017-07-25 01:41:58 UTC  

@Kurt There are always stragglers

2017-07-25 01:42:00 UTC  

We are talking about having a perimeter while we get setup.

2017-07-25 01:42:09 UTC  

Not for the whole event

2017-07-25 01:42:28 UTC  

And the perimeter can handle access

2017-07-25 01:42:30 UTC  

If the set up crew assumes they won't need help clearing the park in lieu of polices than I suppose we can sit back

2017-07-25 01:42:55 UTC  

So at noon it's open up to literally everyone?

2017-07-25 01:43:04 UTC  

We cant extreme vet that situation.

2017-07-25 01:43:09 UTC  

@RCO Nick-TX legally we cannot do that.

2017-07-25 01:43:13 UTC  

We don't know who the hell those people are.

2017-07-25 01:43:54 UTC  

It's a much less sticky situation if the police clear the park out for us.

2017-07-25 01:44:38 UTC  

*IF*

2017-07-25 01:44:51 UTC  

We can't assume they're our guys. Either they'll let anyone in or they'll restrict our guys from getting in.

2017-07-25 01:44:58 UTC  

And that's IF

2017-07-25 01:45:09 UTC  

@Kurt We have the permit. We can control access all we want.

2017-07-25 01:45:47 UTC  

I dont think it gives us exclusive access. I think it just gives us permission to setup equipment and stuff

2017-07-25 01:46:09 UTC  

The men conducting security and risking life and limb are more equipped to handle access than some cloistered VIPs

2017-07-25 01:46:38 UTC  

I'll press the police to clear the park for us prior to say 11:40 am

2017-07-25 01:46:43 UTC  

Sure, if they want to go to jail

2017-07-25 01:47:12 UTC  

@MadDimension If the event starts at noon, we are going to need at least an hour to setup.

2017-07-25 01:47:29 UTC  

We have radios. There is such thing as communication and simple white intelligence and agency

2017-07-25 01:48:29 UTC  

So, considering a lot of our people are going to be arriving early, what does the police clearing the park look like? Everyone, including ourguys gets removed?

2017-07-25 01:48:57 UTC  

Is there anyone safe to pregame not in the park?

2017-07-25 01:49:16 UTC  

I'm lost now. The problem statement is that we are afraid that antifa will camp out in the park to prevent us from setting up, correct? If so we pretty much have two options. 1. Get the police to clear the park and control access until we get setup and ready. 2. Commit felony assault if the antifa wont move.

2017-07-25 01:49:39 UTC  

Here is the deal:

The police HAVE to leave a portion of the park open to the "public" (including Antifa). The best possible deal we could strike is to give them an area as small as 10'x10' or a single pathway from one end of the park to the other

2017-07-25 01:50:51 UTC  

How many obese antifa can they fit in a 10x10 square?

2017-07-25 01:50:58 UTC  

@Kurt Them I'm assuming you and your guys won't be helping with security and trying to ensure the event actually happens?

2017-07-25 01:51:10 UTC  

Antifa ARE NOT going to be allowed to camp out in the park

2017-07-25 01:51:46 UTC  

@RCO Nick-TX I do not speak for any group.

2017-07-25 01:52:16 UTC  

What is our access to the police for communication going to be like in the midst of all of this? Generally speaking, the two sides should be relatively easy to distinguish, and point out interlopers to the cops.

2017-07-25 01:53:03 UTC  

I am just pointing out that we should take the option that is the safest and most legal. If the police are willing to clear the park for us, let them.

2017-07-25 01:53:34 UTC  

There will almost 200 police in the park. We have a lot of say in the safest way to deploy them

2017-07-25 01:53:39 UTC  

@Kurt Yea of course. And if they don't?

2017-07-25 01:54:20 UTC  

Then all bets are off

2017-07-25 01:55:11 UTC  

But if the are making the offer, then why not take it and plan on attempting to clear the park ourselves as a contingency.