Message from @Mikey
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I've heard sconstant autism over him and his party being anti-semitic, but never the actual evidence of what they've actually been alleged to have done.
Yeah neither have I really. I haven't paid that close attention to it so I thought it was just me
I've tried looking at newspapers and websites, and found nothing
I put it someone on par with the Tories Islamaphobia claim
Only claims that they're anti-semitic, to the point I think it's a case of people having heard it so much have started to believe it.
Thats how politics/media works now unfortunately
An accusation seems to hold as much weight as an actual instance of it happening
When even Jack thinks PEP is blinded and hysterical, you know he's completely off his rocker. <:smugon:512048583806025739>
Corbyn has constantly courted Hamas and gives sucor to extremist Islam and anti-Jewish sentiment in his party - that's the source of the claims of anti-semitism
Corbyn himself doesn't go around demanding to gas the Jews
Ah right, yeah, I guess that's it
So in terms of leadership (allowing it in his party) he is guilty, and in terms of supporting people who are openly anti-semitic (Hamas) he is guilty. Even if he himself may not be anti-semitic
The claims are exagerated, but not without substance
How am I off my rocker
For pointing out facts about the tories misleading shit
And Eccles there are different extremes
It’s not as simple as you’d like it to be
And you never call out the tories anyway
So you should probably listen to your own point
Do you disavow the Libdems for being incredibly misleading with their current election campaign, @PureEvilPie?
Two things you are definitely against.
Also, I don't call anyone out, probably because I am well aware that even the party I supported has done the same. Its genuinely part and parcel of the political world. Not saying its right, just saying if you're going to froth at the mouth when it comes to the Tories misleading nonsense and yet you don't with Libdems, sounds like you're deliberately ignoring it.
Well I’m not frothing at the mouth
I’m saying you can’t just compare different extremes as the same
It’s like comparing a serial killer with Stalin
Link me where the Lib Dem’s have edited interview footage of the tories
Or where they have been done by the independent watch dog
And I already said I don’t like Jo’s position on austerity, no party fits me perfectly... the Lib Dem’s just are the closest. It’s not that hard to understand
I never said they were perfect
Oh the calling out btw, I was referring to Eccles on that
Basically: It's not as bad, so it's a none issue
And it shouldn't matter what kind of political manipulation takes place, its both as bad as each other as it'll be manipulating the voters. Yet you seem to not think that one is as bad as the other for whatever reason.
Well, there are different levels of manipulation
Just as with political violence. It shouldn't matter which is worse, what should matter is its stomped out entirely.
One includes illegal acts
Which is what the tories are doing
Urmmm
Yea it does matter mikey
If one side does it a lot a worse than the other
You need to learn where to focus your efforts