And I almost never agree with the latter

Because you're going too far in the other direction

You’re just saying you’re a centrist

Lol

No

That’s fine

A centrist would say that transgenderism should be fine

I'm severely opposed to the idea of transgenderism as it exists in modern day

important *as it exists*

There's also a simple reason as to why centrists are typically right more often

It's statistics

Depends on the time frame

When choosing between two opposite extremes, they're both likely incorrect

A centrist of 1950 would be different from a centrist of 2019

True

My point is

Ford is the complete opposite of a progressive

Yeah but that’s why I like him

(or at least he seems to be)

I bet you that Ford in the 1500's would be considered degenerate by a ton of people

@ETBrooD He might even be considered--dare I say--a SODOMITE?

Not degenerate, just a heretical pagan

Not even so unlikely tbh

That's a fallacy of moral relativism

I'm not relativizing anything

I'm saying that's what people would think

The point being that you may not be aware of where you actually stand on the spectrum

You are gauging on the assumption that values are relative to the time frame they are made in, I'm gauging on perennial values which stay constant throughout time

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditionalist_School

I'll let you in on a little secret on "values consistent through time"

They weren't even consistent within their own countries

@ETBrooD They're not always possible?

Not really, they have been consistent for the vast majority of people throughout history

Nope

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People couldn't even read or write back in the day

They weren't even considered worthy enough to be listened to

It is irrespective of literacy

Then my point flew right over your head. Let me explain.

Traditionalism is natural

Yeah but ford, understand that human genetics have changed throughout time