Political views aren't heritable

I don’t know if that counts as morality

There is an oral tradition of ancient Aryans of India, who have preserved the Vedas, a large corpus of ancient Sanskrit hymns, for over 5000 years

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedic_chant

Ok it works like this, you know the big five personality test? Those greatly influence your political values, and morality and are also heritable @ETBrooD

And they have been doing so since before they were acquainted with writing on a large scale

So it is idiotic to even suggest that illiterate people don't pass down their values

That’s why there is a world of difference between conservatives and liberals

But that doesn’t mean it’s a concrete thing, think of it as a outline to a book, environment deals the rest @ETBrooD

Same with Germanic bards and Celtic druids

Historical context feels in the details

I think you've still misunderstood my argument

? Maybe I did, chat has gotten a little chaotic

My argument is that we don't know which values illiterate people had, since they didn't express their values through time. They can learn chants all they want, that doesn't change the fact that they can't create a big library of personal values that would show their true diversity of thought.

So for us it is impossible to assume that they either did or didn't have diverse values.

Still wrong

Do you know how Grimms tales were made?

And what do they reflect?

No

I can vaguely remember a few of the stories

They were a collection of folklore of rural Germany, collected by the Grimm brothers

What they found was that these stories reflected many similar elements and often times contained missing links with Germanic Iron Age historical events

Which had been recorded elsewhere

"Many similar elements" does not equate to "values consistent through time"

It does tell us which values remained and which didn't, and couple it with historical events, you have the complete picture

No it doesn't tell us that, because it's only a collection, and it's not a word-for-word representation of any values

The main point is, there has always been a transmission of beliefs from the older generation to the younger, even when they were illiterate

It's also likely that the Grimm brothers put their own spin on the stories

So to sum it up, it proves nothing about consistent values

It proves that people propagated their beliefs regardless of literacy

Which is really a self evident point anyway

Propapagated their beliefs... through time?

So three or four generations later those beliefs would be consistent?

Across all or most people?

Mutations of beliefs occurred mainly through wars and other upheavals like famine

That's a non-answer

And even such events were recorded and passed down as folklore

*getting increasingly bored*

Not to mention, mutations didn't cause rapid changes. So for instance, it would be highly rare for a stable society to go from rejecting homosexuality to accepting it, unlike in today's post modern age

Aight, no answer then

I wanted to go to bed anyway, gn8