There's no point in sucking up to Israel since Israel have no choice by to remain allies. They are surrounded by Mudslime.

Part of the "giving money to Israel", is basically laundering money into lockheep, Boeing &co

Well, yeah. They even admit it.

since much, if not all is basically military contract vouchers

They give Israel money so that Israel can purchase US made weapon systems.

which have to be spent in US

It is money laundering.

That's not automatically bad either.

Helps keep the companies running

Not if you think like neocon.

Obviously corporativism and cronyism are not bad if you think like neocon.

Keeping your military industry running has a value in itself

whether doing that through Israel is good is another question.

Well, why should tax-payers pay for upkeep of bloated military industry?

Why should tax-payers in USA pay for US military industry to pump their produce to Israel?

Because the world hegemon needs the industry

Why don't you try making **GOOD** cars instead of shit ones?

Why don't you make solar panels? New batteries?

Something that are on short supply and with huge demand globally.

Because military industry isn't about commercial supply.

or demand

Why don't you actually serve markets where the purchase pays for the product, instead of US tax payer?

it's about being able to blow the other guy up

IIRC, someone was arguing that the military budget WASN'T Bloated

within the last month or two

You can use free markets to benefit the military industry, but they're not required for it. It's a separate thing that is necessary.

@leavethisbotnet And you aren't convinced that USA has the nuclear capability to destroy human life on this planet five times over already without further investment in weapons?

SSSR had it w/o free markets

not from the nukes alone

but maybe the fallout might?

Fallout or nuclear winter and lack of sunlight and food.

You can't just nuke your opponents, most of the time

people caring about civilian losses.... smh

So you aren't happy with amount of weapons until you can shoot every country to pieces without nukes, because reasons. It's not enough that you are bigger than how many... three(?) next biggest armies **COMBINED**?

Being bigger counts for something, but it's by far not any guarantee. Look at Russia in WW1

Why give money to military complex then, if being bigger doesn't make you better?

It's a never-ending sinkhole of money.

And you admit being bigger isn't even better.

You may have 20 nuclear CVs, but if you lag behind technologically and the enemy can blow them up within first month of the conflict, they're not of much use.

Development costs money.

US military expenditure is far from efficient