Message from @leavethisbotnet

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2019-11-04 14:08:19 UTC  

Something that are on short supply and with huge demand globally.

2019-11-04 14:08:36 UTC  

Because military industry isn't about commercial supply.

2019-11-04 14:08:41 UTC  

or demand

2019-11-04 14:08:45 UTC  

Why don't you actually serve markets where the purchase pays for the product, instead of US tax payer?

2019-11-04 14:08:54 UTC  

it's about being able to blow the other guy up

2019-11-04 14:08:56 UTC  

IIRC, someone was arguing that the military budget WASN'T Bloated

2019-11-04 14:09:02 UTC  

within the last month or two

2019-11-04 14:10:32 UTC  

You can use free markets to benefit the military industry, but they're not required for it. It's a separate thing that is necessary.

2019-11-04 14:10:48 UTC  

@leavethisbotnet And you aren't convinced that USA has the nuclear capability to destroy human life on this planet five times over already without further investment in weapons?

2019-11-04 14:10:55 UTC  

SSSR had it w/o free markets

2019-11-04 14:10:59 UTC  

not from the nukes alone

2019-11-04 14:11:04 UTC  

but maybe the fallout might?

2019-11-04 14:11:26 UTC  

Fallout or nuclear winter and lack of sunlight and food.

2019-11-04 14:11:31 UTC  

You can't just nuke your opponents, most of the time

2019-11-04 14:12:17 UTC  

people caring about civilian losses.... smh

2019-11-04 14:12:38 UTC  

So you aren't happy with amount of weapons until you can shoot every country to pieces without nukes, because reasons. It's not enough that you are bigger than how many... three(?) next biggest armies **COMBINED**?

2019-11-04 14:13:31 UTC  

Being bigger counts for something, but it's by far not any guarantee. Look at Russia in WW1

2019-11-04 14:13:59 UTC  

Why give money to military complex then, if being bigger doesn't make you better?

2019-11-04 14:14:08 UTC  

It's a never-ending sinkhole of money.

2019-11-04 14:14:14 UTC  

And you admit being bigger isn't even better.

2019-11-04 14:14:41 UTC  

You may have 20 nuclear CVs, but if you lag behind technologically and the enemy can blow them up within first month of the conflict, they're not of much use.

2019-11-04 14:15:12 UTC  

Development costs money.

2019-11-04 14:15:30 UTC  

US military expenditure is far from efficient

2019-11-04 14:15:33 UTC  

that's true

2019-11-04 14:15:56 UTC  

If you have a war between nuclear states, that's been going on for a month, and the nukes haven't been detonated on enemy soil, then the nukes deserved to be taken off by enemy air attacks.

2019-11-04 14:16:52 UTC  

I think there are better ways to keep private military companies afloat than to give money to Israel...

2019-11-04 14:17:22 UTC  

I really cannot imagine a scenario where some foreign power went to destroy nuclear launch sites on USA, and USA didn't nuke the country destroying the launch sites.

2019-11-04 14:17:47 UTC  

Some Israelis were complaining that the money prevents them from developing their own industry.
Which is true.

2019-11-04 14:18:43 UTC  

A lot of anti-rocket tech was live tested in Israel quite thoroughly. Tech that the US has, because Isreal wasn't able to do their own thing.

2019-11-04 14:19:22 UTC  

Don't get me wrong, the counterarguments certainly have their merit too.

2019-11-04 14:19:57 UTC  

I'm just arguing the side that I felt was not represented well.

2019-11-04 19:33:09 UTC  

repost

2019-11-04 19:33:13 UTC  

i didnt

2019-11-04 19:33:23 UTC  

well there it is

2019-11-04 19:33:40 UTC  

discord did

2019-11-04 22:16:04 UTC  

Gorka banned from Youtube

2019-11-04 22:16:13 UTC  

Karma strikes

2019-11-04 22:16:35 UTC  

who