Yeah, as said, statute of limitations.

Actually, as I skimmed that article (reading at first) I found myself growing sick to my stomach.

The conservatives are right to chase stability all this exists (the modern iteration of the left) because of emotional instability

Can we have that in english, Nathan?

Normal mentally stable people don't become radicals

Conservatives aren't chasing stability

Not anymore and this is more of a American thing

Probably linked to the religious aspect of America maybe?

juice

You get what I mean though right, the types that talk about the family unit and such

America has a 'religious aspect?'

More then Europe for sure

I wouldn't say America has a religious aspect as much as America acknowledges the influence of beleif and strives to keep this seperate from the influence of the State

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Europe throws there into the same pot. Hence their tendency to give too much influence to the state

Well I did say maybe and my position has moved more to it just being traditionalism that I was talking about

cheese

If not for originally acknowledging that ideologies will inevitably try to use the State to legislate morality, everything would be FAR worse

Remember: the 'diversity' which Europe is now struggling with is a mere fraction of the 'diversity' the US has ALWAYS had to deal with

yet, i'd say the US has fewer issues with the State destroying civil liberties

we can't get arrested for tweeting

The Founding fathers where woke on the ethical state for sure

not perfect mind you, but at least they saw the danger

I don't think they could have created something too much better

me neither; hindsight is 20/20

A lot of dangers are coming from things that you just couldn't have imagined ie social media which offers massive protentional for political mobilisation

Whereas before you'd have to physically organise people

and no matter how good the playbook, still comes down to the willness and ability of the people running the plays

Time as well

Give anyone enough time and they'll figure out how to subvert anything

Nanometre by nanometre if they have to

The one thing your ancestors were dead wrong about was freeing the slaves

truth; life isn't as simple as a rule book

lol

newsflash: UK freed FAR more slaves than the US

Slavery is a bane upon a society since it devaluates the labour of the working class and it should have been ended

our biggest mistake was allowing Lincoln

But freeing them and letting them remain in 'murica was a major mistake, one you're still paying the price for

he subverted the power of the States and forced the South to stay with the UNION

Slaves should have either been executed or exported back to the shithole they came from

if the South is allowed to secede, you don't have the racial issues