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@Python I've rewatched the clip multiple times now, and I'm still confused after your explanation lol
Premise: "I'm not having to kill anybody"
Tim's rebuttal:
1) If you vote for *someone* who's going to build a concentration camp, then you are [having to kill people]
2) The concentration camp only gets built if enough people like you believe they should support *this person* [inaudible, 'in fear'?]
[Response to that: it gets built regardless]
3) Not true, we have rules for that
[then they have a short exchange about why so many people surprisingly voted for Trump, disgruntled voters, spiteful Bernie voters. 'They can't take our vote for granted'; and 'Do you think that lesson was learned ?' (that people's vote shouldn't be taken for granted) Tim: 'no way!']
4) But they voted for *Trump*
OHHHH I GET IT
They think concentration camp = death camp
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Oh but
Tim didn't dispute that part
His response was that conc camps only get built if blabla, not that they're not the same as death camps
So Tim is guilty of poor argumentation
Yeah I know what happened there
It's a classic brain fail, where you don't state your position about [term] fully and clearly, and then as the debating partner keeps using the term in a way that you wouldn't, your brain simply goes with it and also starts using it the same way, until you say something that you don't actually believe because you originally didn't plan to use the term that way
That happens a lot when people talk about things they don't fully comprehend, like Tim probably doesn't fully comprehend the meaning of different types of camps
Or how his debating partner uses it
Can certainly be considered a selfown yeah, and it's exactly why I shy away from unwritten debate
Btw that's also the same thing that happens with the term "racist"
Concentration camps, racism, when terms aren't clearly defined prior to a debate, then it's very easy for you to have a brain fail and say something you didn't intend to
And even if they are clearly defined, if you're not used to using them with that definition, then it puts you at a disadvantage
Public Administration and Constitutional Affairs Committee
Subject: The Role of Parliament in the UK Constitution: Role of the Speaker
https://parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/ab3f9a6f-c225-4ef6-8187-3109d7f409c4
but I guess theyre not going to say no to a free €1bn a month
a yt stream of the above parliament link, that thumbnail XD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHATpElaiEU
Our political system died today
With MPs like this bellend
If you want to vote for the deal then whatever
But at least inform yourself before you make these important decisions
What the fuck are they being paid for, might as stick Dave from the local pub in parliament if the current MPs are going to be just as uninformed
At least he admits it
Most of them do the same but pretend to know what they're talking about
And it’s fuckinf stupid
The whole point of our parliamentary democracy is that these people are meant to be more informed to make the decisions on our behalf
What’s the fucking point if they wilfully stay ignorant
It’s genuinely infuriating that this dude is even proud to say he doesn’t know jack shit
Fuck parliament man
and at least he's not like that retard in the EU parliament who was on his feet and cheering when he passed the copyright bill that he didnt even read
Yea they’re a fuckhead as well
Ignorance on all sides should be fucking mocked
But so long as i get muh pay, i couldnt care less. This job is too comfy for me to actually give a shit about it
yea MPs need stricter requirements