Message from @whiic

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2019-10-23 00:08:56 UTC  

yes as are most western persons

2019-10-23 00:09:07 UTC  

I don't think "how should someone live" have a truth to it.

2019-10-23 00:09:18 UTC  

well is there a wrong way to live?

2019-10-23 00:09:27 UTC  

There are better and worse argumented opinions on it.

2019-10-23 00:09:48 UTC  

I disagree, I think there's an objectivity to the way people should be

2019-10-23 00:09:58 UTC  

But I don't think "how to live" has a truth statement to it like 1+1=2 or e=mc^2

2019-10-23 00:10:02 UTC  

I mean, people who live in the Western way are objectively doing better than Somalians

2019-10-23 00:10:22 UTC  

Objectively?

2019-10-23 00:10:29 UTC  

I think Somalians disagree.

2019-10-23 00:10:34 UTC  

Hence it's subjective.

2019-10-23 00:10:41 UTC  

then why do they all want to come here

2019-10-23 00:11:07 UTC  

Maybe they come to spread their superior life style?

2019-10-23 00:11:09 UTC  

I don't think somalians disagree

2019-10-23 00:11:17 UTC  

I do not think somalians are happy, or prosperous

2019-10-23 00:11:21 UTC  

Even in their ignorance

2019-10-23 00:11:40 UTC  

You don't have to be happy and prosperous to think you live proper lives according to God.

2019-10-23 00:11:42 UTC  

again there are some people (in somalia) that believe US (western) is better some who think western is worse

2019-10-23 00:11:44 UTC  

I think something is very rotten in the hearts of somalians, which is why theyhave a deep propensity towards violent nihilism

2019-10-23 00:12:01 UTC  

West is decadent land of shaytan.

2019-10-23 00:12:05 UTC  

you are treating people as monoliths

2019-10-23 00:12:10 UTC  

Some Mudslime might argue for examel.

2019-10-23 00:12:20 UTC  

Most Muslims prefer Saudi Arabia over USA.

2019-10-23 00:12:37 UTC  

How is USA **objectively** better than Saudi Arabia?

2019-10-23 00:12:51 UTC  

larger

2019-10-23 00:12:51 UTC  

Objectively includes also Islamic perspective.

2019-10-23 00:13:01 UTC  

you are robbing people of their agency.

the right way of living ones "life" is different for each person

2019-10-23 00:13:04 UTC  

Is larger objectively better?

2019-10-23 00:13:07 UTC  

Judeo-Christian teachings try to set people on a path of prosperity and inner happiness, divorced from physical materialism and with a strong moral compass (read: anti-nihilism). Which is why the Petersonian idea of reality works in Judeo-Christian cultures.

2019-10-23 00:13:15 UTC  

Larger is objectively larger

2019-10-23 00:13:16 UTC  

That which 'is real' *must* 'benefit you'

2019-10-23 00:13:23 UTC  

To reduce it

2019-10-23 00:13:29 UTC  

Greater country by mass

2019-10-23 00:13:43 UTC  

@Hexidecimark Well, I asked "How is USA objectively better than Saudi Arabia?", not about largeness.

2019-10-23 00:13:48 UTC  

So don't derail.

2019-10-23 00:14:02 UTC  

@D3bug_logic people have the agency to live their lives wrong though. Being wrong doesn't mean you can't do it, or it shouldn't.

2019-10-23 00:14:10 UTC  

Your question was stupid, ask a better one for a better answer

2019-10-23 00:14:17 UTC  

but it might benefit them to live their life wrong

2019-10-23 00:14:23 UTC  

"wrong"

2019-10-23 00:14:24 UTC  

I don't see how

2019-10-23 00:14:35 UTC  

If it does, then our definition of 'wrong' is wrong

2019-10-23 00:14:44 UTC  

how are you basing your measure? pleasure? meaning? security?