Message from @UnfilteredGarbage
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So, you claim that it's reasonable to consider dying wife not dying? That he's being unreasonable in accepting literal truth?
Only if we accept your broken interpretation of his position on 'truth'
Even if he is breaking his own ideas, he's still a human being
I don't deny that. But how is my interpretation broken?
Because Peterson's idea of truth is two-fold. You have a literal and a figural truth. Her death is literal. Her death may in some sense not be figuratively true, since people will still remember her and she may in some sense continue to affect the world, *but* she is still literally dead. Both things are true.
But why do others have to **force** literal truth out of him since he seems to prefer figurative truth without exception?
Because he's an eccentric who's pretty bad at communicating his more cerebral ideas.
He understands literal truth to exist, but simple "truth" is always defaulted to figurative truth or Darwinian truth.
Honestly it's probably his worst trait
I've noticed the same with Hoffstadter, and maybe Plato? They communicate by way of circumnavigation, I think out of an expectation that their audience won't or can't 'get' their point straight out.
how do you determine the truth of harder problems?
how should someone live?
the problem with your definition of truth is it does not work for all persons
Who's definition? Peterson's?
whiic's
Peterson admits his ideas only work in a Judeo-Christian framework
yes as are most western persons
I don't think "how should someone live" have a truth to it.
well is there a wrong way to live?
There are better and worse argumented opinions on it.
I disagree, I think there's an objectivity to the way people should be
But I don't think "how to live" has a truth statement to it like 1+1=2 or e=mc^2
Objectively?
I think Somalians disagree.
Hence it's subjective.
then why do they all want to come here
Maybe they come to spread their superior life style?
I don't think somalians disagree
I do not think somalians are happy, or prosperous
Even in their ignorance
You don't have to be happy and prosperous to think you live proper lives according to God.
again there are some people (in somalia) that believe US (western) is better some who think western is worse
I think something is very rotten in the hearts of somalians, which is why theyhave a deep propensity towards violent nihilism
West is decadent land of shaytan.
you are treating people as monoliths
Some Mudslime might argue for examel.
Most Muslims prefer Saudi Arabia over USA.
How is USA **objectively** better than Saudi Arabia?
larger
Objectively includes also Islamic perspective.
you are robbing people of their agency.
the right way of living ones "life" is different for each person
Is larger objectively better?