Yes

Something that astounds me is the current double standard

We know whites in SA are being persecuted for being too successful and carrying the baggage of original sin

White supremacists would tell you this is wrong

Shouldn't happen

But when some Jews are in the same position, suddenly the sirens go off

The progressives feed off of this double standard

They point to it and tell more balanced thinkers that this extremism is still going on

It makes honest discourse so much more difficult

There's this one SA country where people want to be whiter and the whiter you are the better

Forgot which one

Yeah same thing in Japan

I didn't know this is a thing in SA as well

Being whiter was a social thing in most areas of the world

Yeah

Until taking holidays in foreign countries became a huge thing

Then suddenly having darker skin as a white person was meant to elevate one's status

Cause it meant you can afford to travel

It made one a socialite

To an extent

And then people realized one of the dangers of too much sun: skin cancer

Yeah

Or that some whites can't get darker cause their skin is too white

Right

oh god

Whiic's been radicalized

oh shit oh fuck

I'm not yet radicalized. I'm trying to find myself mistaken.

It's funny that those who say I'm wrong, cannot find a single example to the contrary, and just claim that I select bad people on purpose (despite the fact that I loved Harris until he revealed his true colors due to Trump).

Maybe the shortlist is like Halsey, Gad Saad and halfway there with Dave Rubin (although he's a shill).

Past generations had much greater Jews (Einstein, Friedman, Ayn Rand, etc.). Now it feels like 9 out of 10 of them are progressive lunatics. Sanders, Pakman, Kulinski, Big Joel, significant portion of Breadtube, and practically everyone who writes anti-white articles in the media. (Niggers just rant about whites on TV or Youtube. Jews instead write about that stuff as if "journalism".)

It's target fixation. I'd say the number one offender I see are WASP women. If I were to really name a demographic it would be people with 6 figure salaries and/ or postgrad degrees. Naturally this is going to be overpopulated with Jews and WASPs.

Like you brought up Sam and I listened to his last interview at work today. To 'understand' deplorables he went to who? A journo for the New Yorker. I think, as a general practice, podcasters like Sam or Joe should make an effort to have on, maybe only 10% of the time, someone who has *neither* a postgrad nor a 6-figure salary.

Because otherwise your exposure is to an extreme minority of people. You are really about as worldly as a kid from the inner city slums of Baltimore. If you move that kid to another inner-city slum (much like moving from one upper-class neighborhood to another) their socialization and worldview does not change much.

anyone else find it astoundingly coincidental that mexico and chile are sprouting some problems close to election season, with the wall being built, and immigration being cut down on

and Hillary was the Foreign Policy person

and she's potentially running again?

all very convenient

@Jym It's also the matter of Sam Harris' "choice" of conversation partners, as those who disagree with him are less likely to engage with him because he's such a hard hitter, or intellectual powerhouse. Almost no one can straight up defeat him in an argument because he's so rock solid.

And then there's the issue that those who oppose him, if they agree with him on other things, may not want to spend time on him, because they consider it a fruitless effort, or perhaps even dangerous for their own careers. The pool of voluntary debating partners shrinks to an absurd degree then.

Basically, agreeing with Harris, or at least having similar views, is the safe and easy choice.

@ETBrooD

I honestly do not find Sam that impressive. Maybe it is because I was never in to movement atheism? I like that he will expose me to ideas I would not normally seek out. But my pint was that those 2 categories represent an extremely narrow band of interest and experience and these public conversations suffer from that degree of ignorance.