@Eccles Saudi is itching to go to war

Saudi would probably have it's arse kicked

Nearly every problem in the Middle East and parts of Africa have been caused by excessive intervention by Europe and the US

Probably why they're not

perhaps its iran that should stop interfering

Let Iran go to war with Saudi Arabia if they want to

@The Electric Lizard objectively, it didn't go to shit till they asked everyone to leave. And they did

To be fair, Iran are squarely at fault here, and the EU

Why should US Soldiers die because the US loves intervening in disputes that it has nothing to do with

Nah. After Ottoman empire fell apart, there just was a power vacuum. You can't blame europe for that much

EU is to blame for appeasing Iran recently

I am taking about after the Ottomans

Just look at Libya

Could possibly blame Germany

They should not have overthrow Ghadaffi

That was a retarded plan

Libya and Iran or Afghanistan are different matter

It was doing well under Ghadaffi and then we intervened got rid of him and now it is back to being ruined

And what does that have to do with Iran?

It is what happens when the US intervenes too much

Tbf, he was still socialist. Wouldn't have ended well anyways

and it is exactly why they should not intervene in the dispute between Saudi Arabia and Iran

That's just BS. Libya was doing little to elicit justified anger from the west.

@randomNPCno3 It was doing better under his form of Socialism then it is now

Iran is a different case

Does it really matter whose fault it is when they're bitterly fighting over 2 variants of the same sky pixie? We should build a huge wall around the continent and leave them to it.

@The Electric Lizard and Venezuela used to be paradise

We should completely withdraw all US and European soldiers from the Middle East

"This particular intervention ended badly, therefore we should not intervene anywhere"
That is just an utterly idiotic and moronic argument.

It's Shia/Sunni essentially in the current conflict hitting saudi

It's not just Libya

little to justify? they threatened to blow up all the ships carrying oil through the med

Nearly every Intervention has ended like this

What about Chile?

That went very well

a million barrels a day goes through there

What about south Korea?

They depose a leader that they disagree with and replace them with a leader who is inevitably worse

the whole west would fall apart if ghadaffi went through with his threat

https://twitter.com/KeithMFarmer/status/1174082141572993024?s=20

that also went ... better than if there was no intervention.