Message from @Cato the Young-ish

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2019-09-21 21:37:53 UTC  

Well now we've voted to leave, after years of being promised a vote and not being given one, so let's leave

2019-09-21 21:37:56 UTC  

Through our elected government.

2019-09-21 21:37:58 UTC  

The people WE vote in.

2019-09-21 21:38:04 UTC  

The ones WITH that power.

2019-09-21 21:38:15 UTC  

But we voted in parties which supported the EU.

2019-09-21 21:38:16 UTC  

@Lêohte I hold two opposing beliefs as equal

2019-09-21 21:38:21 UTC  

Hence WE allowed it to grow.

2019-09-21 21:38:30 UTC  

Weez, you overestimate the power those have.
Suppose Russia's democracy is solid too eh?

2019-09-21 21:38:35 UTC  

and now WE are telling it to get fucked

2019-09-21 21:39:00 UTC  

I accept most of that Weez, but now we want to get the fuck out of it, and there are legitimate reasons for doing so

2019-09-21 21:39:23 UTC  

@Weez no we didn't. Margaret Thatcher was kicked out after she started speaking up against the EU and they put in the puppet that was Major instead. Please learn some history.

Everyone was fed up of a conservative government after like over a decade and that is why blair got in.

What you are putting forward is such a twisted interpretation of what has happened.

2019-09-21 21:39:31 UTC  

Just because we allowed it to grow before does not mean we should continue allowing it to grow

2019-09-21 21:39:45 UTC  

We have a veto ability. We didn't use it. We weren't forced to sign anything, our elected officials chose to agree and sign all of it into power.

2019-09-21 21:40:02 UTC  

And what when the people want toe Government to veto something and they don't

2019-09-21 21:40:06 UTC  

@Weez Presenting it as we voted for the EU is disingenuous and is fundamentally dishonest.

2019-09-21 21:40:08 UTC  

Who forced us to sign EU laws into power? @Mr. Jesus

2019-09-21 21:40:17 UTC  

@Weez We didn't

2019-09-21 21:40:18 UTC  

I dont buy this bizarre revisionist interpretation of the EU

2019-09-21 21:40:20 UTC  

What if the State against the publics will agree to give away our Veto? @Weez

2019-09-21 21:40:20 UTC  

Who forced us to sign treaties?

2019-09-21 21:40:27 UTC  

Veto is not constructive, it is blocking. Its not like a functioning healthy broad democracy where they debate and create. The directors create behind closed doors, the MEPs just ask 'please sir can you rethink?'

2019-09-21 21:40:30 UTC  

When have the state and nation been congruent?

2019-09-21 21:40:37 UTC  

@Weez keep on distorting the truth and ignoring the nuance of the last 40 years of history.

2019-09-21 21:40:38 UTC  

MP's are opposing the will of their voters now

2019-09-21 21:40:58 UTC  

It's a simple question, were we forced to do those things against our will?

2019-09-21 21:41:09 UTC  

So what would stop them from just agreeing despite the public opposition to give away our Veto power

2019-09-21 21:41:13 UTC  

When were WE asked?

2019-09-21 21:41:15 UTC  

Did we have an alternative option in those events?

2019-09-21 21:41:21 UTC  

At general elections @Lêohte

2019-09-21 21:41:25 UTC  

And in the previous referendums.

2019-09-21 21:41:25 UTC  

@Weez We never had a choice. As I said we weren't allowed a referendum and EU matters weren't in the public's mind.

2019-09-21 21:41:34 UTC  

Yes we had an option to exactly dictate treaties, ofcourse

2019-09-21 21:41:41 UTC  

@Weez It is a dishonest loaded question and you know it.

2019-09-21 21:41:45 UTC  

Hes a jew

2019-09-21 21:41:46 UTC  

We just need to destroy the EU and try again

2019-09-21 21:41:47 UTC  

Dont bother

2019-09-21 21:41:50 UTC  

Ok now to race

2019-09-21 21:41:57 UTC  

"EU matters weren't in the public's mind." @Mr. Jesus You don't think about policies before voting in your party?

2019-09-21 21:42:03 UTC  

When were we asked if we'd like to be flooded with racial aliens?

2019-09-21 21:42:06 UTC  

Set up a new EU based one different principles

2019-09-21 21:42:18 UTC  

Maybe one based on Nationalistic Libertarianism