Message from @wacka

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2019-09-24 15:02:12 UTC  

It's about it being the same in reality

2019-09-24 15:02:22 UTC  

The reality is the EU was and is based off the USA

2019-09-24 15:02:28 UTC  

Which it has modelled quite well

2019-09-24 15:02:40 UTC  

Hence my analogy fits perfectly..

2019-09-24 15:02:46 UTC  

No shit, however it is somewhere between a international treaty and a federal state.

2019-09-24 15:02:52 UTC  

It is in limbo

2019-09-24 15:02:56 UTC  

Should the president have a say in California leaving the republic?

2019-09-24 15:03:12 UTC  

No you analogy doesn't work as I've explained

2019-09-24 15:03:26 UTC  

It does when we're looking at the governmental structure...

2019-09-24 15:03:28 UTC  

As we are

2019-09-24 15:03:36 UTC  

Rather than trying to look at pointless single policies

2019-09-24 15:03:38 UTC  

Which are meaningless..

2019-09-24 15:03:47 UTC  

No I'm looking at it holistically

2019-09-24 15:03:54 UTC  

And giving you examples

2019-09-24 15:04:02 UTC  

I'd say it resembles more a nation that an international treaty imo

2019-09-24 15:04:09 UTC  

how

2019-09-24 15:04:10 UTC  

However it isn't yet

2019-09-24 15:04:14 UTC  

It is in limbo

2019-09-24 15:04:22 UTC  

It has to eventually choose what to be

2019-09-24 15:04:30 UTC  

And it edging towards UoE

2019-09-24 15:04:39 UTC  

It *is* a nation / state @OrionVi

2019-09-24 15:04:52 UTC  

wait wait wait.... go back to that "spot.protect" bit 😛

2019-09-24 15:05:01 UTC  

I think so too imo

But What would need to change for it to become a nation in your mind?

2019-09-24 15:05:37 UTC  

Unification on military, taxes, single government type throughout etc

2019-09-24 15:05:52 UTC  

If all countries followed the federal model you'd be almost there

2019-09-24 15:06:05 UTC  

However we have a mix of Parliamentary monarchies, federal govs etc

2019-09-24 15:06:25 UTC  

THIS FUCKING ROBOT JUST DID A 360 NO SCOPE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sBBaNYex3E

2019-09-24 15:06:28 UTC  

One of the big reasons it isn't a state yet

2019-09-24 15:07:38 UTC  

I don't think all of those are really mandatory imo.
As long as federal law overrides the state law.

The only thing it is really lacking imo would be it's own military.

2019-09-24 15:07:53 UTC  

Well it does matter

2019-09-24 15:07:59 UTC  

Since for a federal union of states

2019-09-24 15:08:06 UTC  

The states need to be party to that

2019-09-24 15:08:15 UTC  

They need a form of government that is compatible

2019-09-24 15:08:59 UTC  

It's close orion

2019-09-24 15:09:10 UTC  

But again it's in this wierd place

2019-09-24 15:09:19 UTC  

Where it look ls and feels sorta like a state

2019-09-24 15:09:24 UTC  

But it's just not

2019-09-24 15:09:26 UTC  

YET

2019-09-24 15:09:51 UTC  

I think it's not that far off to say it is a state. Or really really close to. Around 85% of a state

2019-09-24 15:10:05 UTC  

However it isn't a state