Mhm

but you think people should be silenced ala 1984

So Conservative then

about right?

Or close to it

Depends on the day

no

Way more authoritarian

Like on the same line as stalin or Adolph

That authoritarian

Just below

Basically

the people flow from the state

not the state flows from the people

Hence why I have no problem with the state intervening

Which is why I think you are very very wrong

Because in the end, the state cant stand up to the people

Its a numbers game

The State only messes things up

Anything it intervenes in it try's to regulate

Which only makes things worse

and you are wrong because you only look at the things it fucks up

That's true, but the people can be made complacent @Joshu

and not the things it does well

I don't think that's correct, the state only has blunt tools

Prohibition for instance

If the people are content, they're fine

Which is why...ium a liberal

because im not blind to either side

It shows what excessive Government intervention and regulation is a bad thing

so it's not that it messes things up, it's just not able

the accumulation of private property that capitalism is based on is a product of state intervention

"excessive Government intervention"

Yes thats the key phrase

thanks for making my point

not only in the sense that it exists by virtue of laws that are upheld by the force wielded by the state but also in the sense that it came to be through state intervention

Excessive is the key word

Excessive Government intervention is a key problem, Lower levels are better but still need to be stopped

Just let the people regulate the economy

that is, the state forcefully privatizing collectively owned farms, forcing farmers to flee to the cities and work for capitalists or die

The people don't regulate the economy @The Electric Lizard