Message from @Monstrous Moonshine

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2019-09-21 22:26:47 UTC  

In other words, only their skill is increasing, not general intelligence

2019-09-21 22:27:18 UTC  

IQ can also be trained by practicing the thought patterns that are required to achieve higher scores in IQ tests
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/iq-boot-camp/201605/new-evidence-iq-can-be-increased-brain-training

2019-09-21 22:28:07 UTC  

"Relational skill" is not to be mistaken with social skills, it just means stuff like if A > B then B < A etc.

2019-09-21 22:28:35 UTC  

Which subtests did they use?

2019-09-21 22:29:02 UTC  

idk, I haven't purchased the paper

2019-09-21 22:29:03 UTC  

It is of course possible to "train" for low heritability subtests, as it is possible to train to use Photoshop

2019-09-21 22:29:21 UTC  

But the main point about IQ tests are high heritability subtests

2019-09-21 22:29:30 UTC  

i was watching the clip from People's Veto , seems very interesting

2019-09-21 22:30:03 UTC  

Which are the main source for infering about g factor and, in turn, racial gaps

2019-09-21 22:30:03 UTC  

The point is just that IQ is a mixture of genetics, environment and training

2019-09-21 22:30:14 UTC  

No shit

2019-09-21 22:30:31 UTC  

Congrats on finding something apriori

2019-09-21 22:30:35 UTC  

Yeah but people who say that genetics is number one lack the evidence for that, that's why I'm saying this

2019-09-21 22:30:37 UTC  

That no one here contested

2019-09-21 22:30:49 UTC  

Well when someone says 80% is genetics, they do kinda contest it

2019-09-21 22:30:54 UTC  

and since we cant change genetics, and we dont need everyone to be equal in IQ at 130 or some shit....

2019-09-21 22:31:03 UTC  
2019-09-21 22:31:10 UTC  

Because that number is nonsense

2019-09-21 22:31:11 UTC  

What do you think the rest 20% is?

2019-09-21 22:31:15 UTC  

It isn't

2019-09-21 22:31:36 UTC  

It's all inferred from research

2019-09-21 22:31:58 UTC  

There's a lot of research to the contrary, you can choose to believe that number is accurate, but it makes no sense to believe that

2019-09-21 22:32:20 UTC  

LMAO

2019-09-21 22:32:35 UTC  

Do you even read before you post nonsense

2019-09-21 22:32:40 UTC  

?

2019-09-21 22:32:54 UTC  

It of course "makes sense" as far as the data indicates it does

2019-09-21 22:33:14 UTC  

And of course there exist many studies

2019-09-21 22:33:20 UTC  

Hence you take a meta analysis

2019-09-21 22:33:23 UTC  

Only if you select your data specifically to support the 80%

2019-09-21 22:33:23 UTC  

Not a single study

2019-09-21 22:33:36 UTC  

Have you read the numbers from the link I posted?

2019-09-21 22:33:47 UTC  

>muh huwhite man manipulating data

2019-09-21 22:33:52 UTC  

lul

2019-09-21 22:34:03 UTC  

You're clearly I'll equipped to have this conversation

2019-09-21 22:34:06 UTC  

"My data is not manipulated, not biased, and conclusive, but yours is not"

2019-09-21 22:34:28 UTC  

@ETBrooD That's why we do a meta analysis you dumbfuck

2019-09-21 22:34:50 UTC  

Ad homs win all arguments

2019-09-21 22:34:52 UTC  

Meta analysis literally means an aggregate of various studies

2019-09-21 22:35:10 UTC  

It's not an ad hom if it also contains a rebuttal

2019-09-21 22:35:15 UTC  

If you want to debate me learn to be civil