Message from @whiic
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um, having grown up on a cattle ranch, i can tell you they do just fine in winter. all they care about it that you leave some hay out for them.
What you just said exemplifies anti-socialist idiocy: because everyone produces X, production of X shouldn't be reduced.
i didn't say that
Where do you live?
Like, on what latitude.
i'm just saying that the cow fart hysteria is unwarranted
at a latitude that gets snow every year
It might be unwarranted, as in, unlike CO2, methane does break up eventually.
(If it didn't Earth's atmosphere would be quite toxic.)
CO2 does not break up, unfortunately, since it's in a very low-energy state.
sure, you might not want to go around *trying* to pump *extra* in to the air; but i'm sure that bogs/swamps produce more methane that cow farts
methane is just decaying biomass
and i'd wager that we don't have any more cows today (in america) than we had bison roaming the plains 300 yrs ago .... you know, the ones that people lament over having their populations almost extincted (and never really recovered)
surely they were responsible for at least as much methane than cows today
Well, mentioning methane output of cows is still relevant, compared to humans eating more plants themselves.
I still don't understand the maths where supposedly herbivore diet causes more animal suffering because the need to kill pests at the field. (Where as supposedly pests don't need killing in the fields growing food for cows, who eat tens times more to produce similar weight of edible meat.)
It's the problem especially with cattle: they are very inefficient at building bodymass of edible meat. Pigs grow fatter faster.
Not to mention chicken.
cuz spinach can't defend itself
But spinach that is fed to a cow can?
cows and pigs do a pretty good job of chasing pests away themselves
How does food grown for human need defending but that grown for cows is capable of self-defense?
cows don't eat human food
Wheat is not human food?
cows eat grass/straw/hay
cow food doesn't need to be cultivated. it just grows by itself all wild and stuff
wheat? who tf feeds them wheat?
Not even the stalks?
what?
grass. they eat grass.
hay
straw
that shit grows everywhere -- it can't not grow
Well, that's when they are grazing.
I'm just not aware of the countless animals killed to protect wheat.
Conservatives always claim countless animals are killed to protect it.
and that's also what you bail, for them to eat when they can't graze
To the point that carnivorism is animal protection.
um, i know there's an argument that says that you would necessitate an total genocide every livestock animal if we all go vegan
And that's the most retarded of all arguments.