Message from @wotmaniac
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What the fuck Haiti
I just thought they Haitians patiently waited for their hurricanes and earthquakes all year
lol
I'm really disappointed with the anti-socialist Youtubers on their takes on climate change. Pretty much every one of them.
And that's annoying, considering I'm also anti-socialist, and I don't want the climate hysterics be turned into global socialism, which is the only means they offer to slow it down. No-one offers solutions that are compatible with free markets and national interests.
Styx talks nonsense and doesn't understand jack shit. Sargon thinks that just because he is agnostic and chooses to remain uneducated about it, it goes away, at least halfway. He's a centrist.
Vee talks about how ozone layer depletion was a thing, not it isn't. Now it's greenhouse effect.
How about: **WE FUCKING BANNED FREON** that was used in refridgerators and even aerosol cans. Now we have other stuff for fridges and AC units, and aerosol cans use simple ozone-friendly butane gas.
How the fuck can Vee be so fucking clueless?
Freon was banned. CO2 consumption hasn't gone to zero (instead is still rising along). Was it too fucking difficult for gypsy retard to understand?
And all the laughing about "cow farts" (or belches). How is methane a laughing matter when laboratory experiments show it's tens of times worse than CO2? There are even financially sound solutions where methane can be collected from a cowshed, and sold for profit or burned locally for heating the farm. Doesn't that make sense from Styxian nuclear-holocaust fetishist perspective as well?
Energy independence. Getting off the grid. Stuff.
And there's a nationalist interest to forcing China to reduce CO2 footprint. Use tariffs like Trump is doing.
cowshed? that might work for dairy farms *__during milking__*, but doesn't work at all for beef cattle (or even dairy cattle *when they're not actively milking*).
just sayin', before you get too far out ahead of yourself
It doesn't work for hot climates, obviously. Canada and Vermonts certainly could adopt it.
I don't think cow leave the cowshed during winters in colder climates. It would be rather cruel.
also, literally every single living thing (or rather, has ever lived, or otherwise made of organic material) produces methane.
And Texas doesn't exactly need biogas for heating. Texas doesn't need heating in general.
um, having grown up on a cattle ranch, i can tell you they do just fine in winter. all they care about it that you leave some hay out for them.
What you just said exemplifies anti-socialist idiocy: because everyone produces X, production of X shouldn't be reduced.
i didn't say that
Where do you live?
Like, on what latitude.
i'm just saying that the cow fart hysteria is unwarranted
at a latitude that gets snow every year
It might be unwarranted, as in, unlike CO2, methane does break up eventually.
(If it didn't Earth's atmosphere would be quite toxic.)
CO2 does not break up, unfortunately, since it's in a very low-energy state.
sure, you might not want to go around *trying* to pump *extra* in to the air; but i'm sure that bogs/swamps produce more methane that cow farts
methane is just decaying biomass
and i'd wager that we don't have any more cows today (in america) than we had bison roaming the plains 300 yrs ago .... you know, the ones that people lament over having their populations almost extincted (and never really recovered)
surely they were responsible for at least as much methane than cows today
Well, mentioning methane output of cows is still relevant, compared to humans eating more plants themselves.
I still don't understand the maths where supposedly herbivore diet causes more animal suffering because the need to kill pests at the field. (Where as supposedly pests don't need killing in the fields growing food for cows, who eat tens times more to produce similar weight of edible meat.)
It's the problem especially with cattle: they are very inefficient at building bodymass of edible meat. Pigs grow fatter faster.
Not to mention chicken.
cuz spinach can't defend itself
But spinach that is fed to a cow can?
Are you a retard?