Message from @whiic
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And there's a nationalist interest to forcing China to reduce CO2 footprint. Use tariffs like Trump is doing.
cowshed? that might work for dairy farms *__during milking__*, but doesn't work at all for beef cattle (or even dairy cattle *when they're not actively milking*).
just sayin', before you get too far out ahead of yourself
It doesn't work for hot climates, obviously. Canada and Vermonts certainly could adopt it.
I don't think cow leave the cowshed during winters in colder climates. It would be rather cruel.
also, literally every single living thing (or rather, has ever lived, or otherwise made of organic material) produces methane.
And Texas doesn't exactly need biogas for heating. Texas doesn't need heating in general.
um, having grown up on a cattle ranch, i can tell you they do just fine in winter. all they care about it that you leave some hay out for them.
What you just said exemplifies anti-socialist idiocy: because everyone produces X, production of X shouldn't be reduced.
i didn't say that
Where do you live?
Like, on what latitude.
i'm just saying that the cow fart hysteria is unwarranted
at a latitude that gets snow every year
It might be unwarranted, as in, unlike CO2, methane does break up eventually.
(If it didn't Earth's atmosphere would be quite toxic.)
CO2 does not break up, unfortunately, since it's in a very low-energy state.
sure, you might not want to go around *trying* to pump *extra* in to the air; but i'm sure that bogs/swamps produce more methane that cow farts
methane is just decaying biomass
and i'd wager that we don't have any more cows today (in america) than we had bison roaming the plains 300 yrs ago .... you know, the ones that people lament over having their populations almost extincted (and never really recovered)
surely they were responsible for at least as much methane than cows today
Well, mentioning methane output of cows is still relevant, compared to humans eating more plants themselves.
I still don't understand the maths where supposedly herbivore diet causes more animal suffering because the need to kill pests at the field. (Where as supposedly pests don't need killing in the fields growing food for cows, who eat tens times more to produce similar weight of edible meat.)
It's the problem especially with cattle: they are very inefficient at building bodymass of edible meat. Pigs grow fatter faster.
Not to mention chicken.
cuz spinach can't defend itself
But spinach that is fed to a cow can?
Are you a retard?
cows and pigs do a pretty good job of chasing pests away themselves
How does food grown for human need defending but that grown for cows is capable of self-defense?
cows don't eat human food
Wheat is not human food?
cows eat grass/straw/hay
cow food doesn't need to be cultivated. it just grows by itself all wild and stuff
wheat? who tf feeds them wheat?
Not even the stalks?
what?
grass. they eat grass.
hay
straw
that shit grows everywhere -- it can't not grow
Well, that's when they are grazing.